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Rhoadhoused

Rhoadhoused

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Watching the Fab Five documentary and seeing Webber's highlights I see a big similarity in talent and playstyle. Very impressive passing and just dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up. Both big guys who could handle it well. Unselfish.

Is it just me? I haven't looked at stats or anything it's just an eye test. Im also not saying RW was or will be as good or anything.
 
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Rhoadhoused said:
Watching the Fab Five documentary and seeing Webber's highlights I see a big similarity in talent and playstyle. Very impressive passing and just dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up. Both big guys who could handle it well. Unselfish.

Is it just me? I haven't looked at stats or anything it's just an eye test. Im also not saying RW was or will be as good or anything.
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I think that is a pretty good comparison. Some of Royce's passes remind me a lot of how C Webb and Vlade used to play together, minus the flopping of course.
 
Rhoadhoused said:
Watching the Fab Five documentary and seeing Webber's highlights I see a big similarity in talent and playstyle. Very impressive passing and just dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up. Both big guys who could handle it well. Unselfish.

Is it just me? I haven't looked at stats or anything it's just an eye test. Im also not saying RW was or will be as good or anything.
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This is gonna sound dickish but...

I'd say it's a homerish/optimistic outlook. Royce's offensive game isn't even close to as polished as Webber's was. And I don't really get what you mean "dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up". I can't recall any time Royce did that.

I can just imagine the folks over at the Iowa board getting a good chuckle out of this

*And don't get me wrong, I love Royce. I think his passing ability exceeds Webber's
 
I see the Chris Webber similarities but they don't quite fit. I see Royce as a small forward in the NBA. A match-up nightmare. Royce should be used in the Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre mode, he ecen has the big hands (bigger actually) like Aguirre and Dantley. Royce has to work on his shot of course, but he can be a dominant 3.
Disclaimer for following statement: I am NOT comparing Royce to Magic.
When Royce grabs a rebound and starts up court with his head up, damn if he doesn't remind me of Magic
The long and short of it: Royce is a unique talent, with his own inimitable game. I love watching him play ball.
 
Malone said:
This is gonna sound dickish but...

I'd say it's a homerish/optimistic outlook. Royce's offensive game isn't even close to as polished as Webber's was. And I don't really get what you mean "dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up". I can't recall any time Royce did that.

I can just imagine the folks over at the Iowa board getting a good chuckle out of this

*And don't get me wrong, I love Royce. I think his passing ability exceeds Webber's
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Rhoadhoused said:
Im also not saying RW was or will be as good or anything.
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1991-92 Michigan Wolverines Roster and Statistics | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Only place I could find stats. Weber averaged 15 points, 10 boards, 2.5 blocks. 1.6 steals, 2.2 assists in his first year. It looks to me like he had passing ability, but was more focused on scoring than I had originally thought.

He did have a jumper as well it looks like, he made 1.6 threes per game.

He was obviously the #1 pick in the draft when he went, I already said I'm not saying he is as good as him, just that he is the closest comparison to Royce I've seen.

I think there are similarities in: size, scoring ability around the basket, passing talent, rebounding, and agility for a big man.

The dunking thing was like at the end of the first half against Iowa. We were just starting to feel out how Royce was going to play and where he stood talent wise. He starts and iso and dribbles into the lane, on the right side and goes up to shoot. It looked to me like an obvious situation where you lay it with the defender in his face, but he just stuffed it through the rim and absolutely caught everyone by surprise. I guess it is a measure of athleticism and strength if you want to quantify it.
 
Not so sure about comparing him to Webber.

The comparison I have seen most often was to Anthony Mason, who played pretty much a point-forward position for the Hornets after playing for the Knicks.

If you watch some youtube videos of Mason, you will probably see the comparison too.

Not sure what kind of player or position Royce will play in the NBA. It is doubtful he will be given as much freedom as CFH gave him, and he will not be the center of the offense, at least not for a while.
 
Malone said:
This is gonna sound dickish but...

I'd say it's a homerish/optimistic outlook. Royce's offensive game isn't even close to as polished as Webber's was. And I don't really get what you mean "dunking the ball when it seems impossible to do anything but lay it up". I can't recall any time Royce did that.

I can just imagine the folks over at the Iowa board getting a good chuckle out of this

*And don't get me wrong, I love Royce. I think his passing ability exceeds Webber's
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The folks on the iowa board have to have corks on their utensils so the dont poke their eyes out.

When was the last time they had any NBA talent to even talk about?
 
Webber was a man among boys as an 18 year old true freshman in a much more competitive and upper upperclassmen dominated college game.

White was a man among boys as a 21 year old third year sophomore in a much different college game.

White was a poor man's Webber.
 
CyJack13 said:
Webber was a man among boys as an 18 year old true freshman in a much more competitive and upper upperclassmen dominated college game.

White was a man among boys as a 21 year old third year sophomore in a much different college game.

White was a poor man's Webber.
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He's not 21.
 
I saw Webber play in person probably 20+ times while he was at Michigan and he became my favorite player (until he revealed himself as a fraud, but I digress). It's not a terrible comparison. They are both physical freaks in terms of strength with huge, strong hands. Both were great rebounders. Both had great vision and both were clearly the emotional leaders of their teams. Both were very bright and thoughtful guys.

Royce is a better ballhandler and passer which made him better in the open court with the ball. Webber had a better traditional low post game, a better finisher on the break, and would make a 3 if left open. Neither had a great mid-range game.
 
LutherBlue said:
I saw Webber play in person probably 20 times while he was at Michigan and he became my favorite player (until he revealed himself as a fraud, but I digress). It's not a terrible comparison. They are both physical freaks in terms of strength with huge, strong hands. Both were great rebounders. Both had great vision and both were clearly the emotional leaders of their teams. Both were very bright and thoughtful guys.Royce is a better ballhandler and passer which made him better in the open court with the ball. Webber had a better traditional low post game, a better finisher on the break, and would make a 3 if left open. Neither had a great mid-range game.
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Agree with everything.
 
The big difference is that Webber was a legit 6'9" and had more of a true post up game going into the league including the ability to turn and face and threaten with a short range jumper (not that that part of his game was great, but much more advanced than Royce's at the same stage in their careers). Royce has a much more consistent ability to handle the ball, though.
 
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