This is true. I lived in Minneapolis and got a friend a job interview with the company I worked for. He was a daily pot smoker. I told him he had to take a urine test. He said, "no problem". He smoked weed the day before his interview, went to a head shop and bought some stuff to flush it out of his system. Passed his test the next day. This was over 10 years ago and he still works there.
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This is true. I lived in Minneapolis and got a friend a job interview with the company I worked for. He was a daily pot smoker. I told him he had to take a urine test. He said, "no problem". He smoked weed the day before his interview, went to a head shop and bought some stuff to flush it out of his system. Passed his test the next day. This was over 10 years ago and he still works there.
Tests now can pick up alot of those products used to mask the test and if your sample is overly diluted you have to have a blood test.
I guess I don't know how strict the testing is, but if it was this easy, no pro athletes would ever get caught.
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Completely agree with your first statement and hope that it holds true. Just because they've been reinstated does not mean they get to play. If that holds true, that could send a bigger message to the team. On your second point, totally fail!!!! The investigation began on Sept 9th when the call was made by the narc (who by the way is probably an underage tailgater - but thats another story all together) and the search warrant was not issued until Sept 11....so there goes that idea.....
But dont mistake me, i'm not for turning my back on these kids....i just would like to have discipline set in stone and the players now if they cross that line, that they will pay a price and that price is playing time....nothing else really matters....
I had a roommate that must've been dealing while in college. I was gone for a lot of the summer for an intern and when I returned I found things everywhere. After talking with my elderly neighbor, he told me that my house was under suspicion of drug activity. I'm not sure what it takes, but I would've been one of those in a situation like these guys.
Just sit back and relax. Either they are innocent and you have made wrong assumptions about innocent people, or they are guilty and we are forming opinions with VERY little detail.
This thread should drop now. Innocent until proven guilty people. I personally have no idea what to think, but I could care less because I know less than every official presiding. My assumption is that you all know as little as I do and are throwing out opinion on little fact.
Just sit back and relax. Either they are innocent and you have made wrong assumptions about innocent people, or they are guilty and we are forming opinions with VERY little detail.
This thread should drop now. Innocent until proven guilty people. I personally have no idea what to think, but I could care less because I know less than every official presiding. My assumption is that you all know as little as I do and are throwing out opinion on little fact.
I think it's pretty clear here what is going on. It was CPR and JP's weed, the players are covering for them and now, in return for the player's dedication, the suspensions are being lifted. Good all around work by the entire team, this is exactly how team unity is formed!
I think everyone needs to chill out a bit and let CPR handle this. It sounds like it was a miniscule amount of weed as in some residue, a couple seeds and a stem. Was it in the carpet or in a drawer? I have moved my son into a couple apartments at college and believe me, they are NOT thoroughly cleaned.
Banks has volunteered to be tested for drugs and says he is clean. And I think that the University is correct under the circumstances to let this matter be resolved by the authorities and CPR and reinstate the athletes.
Take Banks, for example. He is a senior. And let's say that this whole situation is much ado about nothing. Completely overblown. And we keep Banks suspended the whole season. That would be a travesty for that young man. He would have been denied the right to play and yet was not found guilty of anything.
I think these 3 young men must realize that they are ambassadors for ISU and should take extra steps to not be in situations that could be an embarassment or potentially bad. It is stupid that they are in this predicament.
And I while Pot is illegal, I wonder what kind of person calls up the cops because they spy someone smoking a reefer outside. They need to show up at the lots at JTS and bust all the cigarette smokers that are smoking illegally on Iowa State University property. That is illegal also.
Banks has volunteered to be tested for drugs and says he is clean. And I think that the University is correct under the circumstances to let this matter be resolved by the authorities and CPR and reinstate the athletes.
Take Banks, for example. He is a senior. And let's say that this whole situation is much ado about nothing. Completely overblown. And we keep Banks suspended the whole season. That would be a travesty for that young man. He would have been denied the right to play and yet was not found guilty of anything.
I think these 3 young men must realize that they are ambassadors for ISU and should take extra steps to not be in situations that could be an embarassment or potentially bad. It is stupid that they are in this predicament.
And I while Pot is illegal, I wonder what kind of person calls up the cops because they spy someone smoking a reefer outside. They need to show up at the lots at JTS and bust all the cigarette smokers that are smoking illegally on Iowa State University property. That is illegal also.
Stormin! We agree! Thank you It is what I have been trying to say and have failed miserably.
Soesn't the University have the authority to submit these young men to drug testing? If they don't they should. Most employers who run a drug free work place would have that authority.
The NCAA, School, and conference can do random drug testing but they don't do that many of them because of the cost. I beleive if there is reasonable suspicion (such as an arrest) they can order up specific players to be tested.
Correct, my experience with the media is that they love to blow things out of proportion. We'll wait for the dust to settle here and see what is going on.
Wouldn't one think the authorities would do a drug test as well? In fact, I would think that they would've given a test in the week between the accusation/search, and the warrant. But who knows....
I think that's the only one that truely matters at the end of the day. I doubt the authorities would simply say ok to a university drug test - regardless of when it was administered.
Presuming they did administor a test and the players passed, you'd think the task force wouldn't have much to go off of. If they failed, you would think that the AD wouldn't be so quick to reinstate (presuming they know the results)
This whole thing is just damn perculiar.
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I'm pretty sure the authorities would have to get a warrent in order to test the players.
Think so?
On first thought, I would too. But then I got to thinking about tests for OWI and such. The don't need a warrant then, do they?
Regardless of the timing, I'd have to think the police gave them a test. They passed or failed. Failed = what is ISU doing, Passed = what is the DA doing?
So, how do we come up with "20 some odd times" then if we are willing to toss out certain arrests based on their severity? Doesn't that give the Hawks only a couple of "serious" arrests then to mock or judge them on?
Can't have it both ways. Sounds to me like you are willing to sweep this under the rug for the sake of the potential success of a struggling program.