Refs calling 2 incomplete passes
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Quentons knee was down when he had possession. In the NCAA you are ruled down when knee is down so technically he was down and had completed the catch. TD. ISU goes on to score 2000 unanswered automatically declared National Champs. Season over. It's amazing how one play can change a season. Hope all those kids in Africa enjoy their ISU 2015-16 champs shirts and hats!
. . . because catching the ball is NOT the final step in completing a pass. Once the pass is completed in the endzone it is a TD and the ball is dead.
. . . and everyone needs to think of the alternative before saying it's a stupid rule. Can you imagine how many current incomplete passes would instead be fumbles? Passing would become almost a liability on the risk scale. Not that it would be terrible, but it would be a big change and a setback for offenses.
None of them, because all the plays in question involve players falling to the ground, so they would be down by contact.
The one that I thought was very unique that I haven't seen before was the Bundrage TD / TCU Interception / Incomplete pass play.
In order to overturn a call, they need indisputable video evidence, which they clearly had to overturn the interception call. But, on that play, they then had to make a secondary call of TD or Incomplete pass, which neither was the original call, so the indisputable video evidence litmus test was no longer even applicable. In that scenario, they just had to make their best judgement call of which it was.
I do think they made the correct call as the rules stand, but I don't recall ever seeing something like that before. I feel like that play should be on the Referee Final Test before getting credentialed!
In order to overturn a call, they need indisputable video evidence, which they clearly had to overturn the interception call. But, on that play, they then had to make a secondary call of TD or Incomplete pass, which neither was the original call, so the indisputable video evidence litmus test was no longer even applicable. In that scenario, they just had to make their best judgement call of which it was.
I do think they made the correct call as the rules stand, but I don't recall ever seeing something like that before. I feel like that play should be on the Referee Final Test before getting credentialed!
Another season or two and the entire Referee Final Exam will consist of various ISU oddities. :/
Iowa State is playing Texas and is attempting a goal line stand. Iowa State appears to grab a fumble and run unopposed for a touchdown.
How do you rule.
A) TD Iowa State
B) Blow the play dead, but give ISU the ball at the 1 yard line
C) Blow the play dead and claim forward progress. It is Texas after all.
D)Blow the play dead and claim forward progress. It is Texas after all. Issue an apology letter on Monday (those are as good as a win)
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That was a bad call and the VP of officials made it worse trying to justify it. If that had happened at midfield and the ball had actually hit the ground there is no way it would of been called a completed catch and a fumble. So therefore despite the fact that he had crossed the goal line he had not completed the process of the catch.