Recruit Lists v2.0
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Point is, this board (including you) do not know everything that is going on behind the scenes in recruiting.
Tough question to answer with a new target, though there must be a connection to visit on the first day of open recruiting. Usually that indicates a priority recruit with some mutual interest.
I do know that teams get 0 top 150 players you shy away from due to their offer list, so there is no reason to back away due to "a great offer list".
This is a good point. Obviously, the guys we need to win at the top level will have alternatives with other teams at the top level. We've played at the level of the big boys the last 5 years because we were playing with similar talent.
Made a living at Murray State. Murray State's team would have been a mid-level team in the Big 12. Obviously, we need higher-level talent to be a team the level we have become accustomed to the past 4-5 years.
However, the PGs he developed aren't middle of B12 quality. They would have been some of the best in the league by the time they left.
Got it-I missed the PG point.
Here's a little research I did. In the past 4 years and for the coming season, when we have experienced/ expect to experience great success, the following guys played (or are expected to play) at least 15 minutes/game. I have noted the number of stars per Rivals of each coming out of high school or juco, and put them in to categories:
5-star: Royce White
4-star: Georges Niang, Monte Morris, Jameel McKay, Bryce Dejean-Jones, Matt Thomas, Korie Luscious, Chris Allen, Deonte Burton
3-star: Melvin Ejim, Naz Long,
3-star juco: Dustin Hogue, Tyrus McGee
3-star or less, but had proven themselves at other schools prior to coming to Iowa State: Abdel Nader, DeAndre Kane, Will Clyburn, Chris Babb, Scott Christopherson, Hallice Cook.
The only 3-star guys we've recruited directly from high school that played real minutes are Ejim and Long. Additionally, there's not a 4-star guy that didn't contribute at a high level (excluding Custer, who I believe would have ultimately-left too early to tell).
The remainder of our recruits over this period are 3-star or less guys that saw little to no action on the court with names like Sledge, SDW, Railey, Gibson, Okoro, etc.
I know this isn't necessarily a revelation, as there are studies about the need for 4/4+ star guys, but talent is needed to compete at the level we want to compete at. And stars matter. I will add that it is unrealistic to expect a guy like Prohm to come to ISU and be hauling in 4-star guys right off the bat. I believe he ultimately will and that, until then, he will find guys that can play, whether that be from the high school ranks, juco or in the transfer market.
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Oops, thanks. Was moving too fast. I corrected, but actually furthers the point.
Jesus man, give the guy some time. He's been the head coach of an upper level power 5 school for all 3 months.
It's not like he's specifically recruiting 3* or less players. He just missed on a highly rated 4* pg, and has two 4* hs kids coming on an official this weekend.
It's not like he's specifically recruiting 3* or less players. He just missed on a highly rated 4* pg, and has two 4* hs kids coming on an official this weekend.
My error. He actually played prior to my sample size, which includes the tournament years of 11-12, 12-13, 13-14, 14-15 and assuming this year. His recruiting class did fall in the range. If he had played during that timeframe, he would have been in the 3-star juco category.
I corrected-thanks for pointing out.
Thanks for putting this together. I do have one question though. I love the guy, but wasn't Naz a 2-star?
