Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[jctisu]

Strong disagree. The moment they do that they are going to lose a lot of the carrying fees for cable and yttv. ESPN+ is already struggling outside of the bundle and they just doubled the price. No way they essentially abandon the OTA stuff like that.

You are going to have to be ready to have your head spin. I know for a fact this is happening sooner rather than later. Part of the reason ESPN+ is struggling (not as bad as people think though) is because of what is on ESPN+ right now. When people get ESPN+, they think it's going to be like almost every other streaming service where they get ALL of their content. Well with ESPN+ you actually get NONE of it (no ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, etc.).

So once people get what they actually want on that platform, it will start to move in the right direction for Disney/ESPN. They aren't paying out the ass for these sports rights just because it's fun. They have people crunching this data and these numbers to the smallest margin. They know live sports is really the only big thing on TV, so force the habit change even more and get it all under your streaming service. They will be able to charge a pretty decent amount, and the vast majority of the country will get what they want there with live sports. $35 a month is better than $150+ for cable with channels you don't want.

 

[RustShack]

I bunked with Brian Ferentz in section 8 housing... he was on top.

If CA blocks UCLA's move it'd be a classic case of shooting themselves in the foot. B1G would just move on to Stanford or someone else. UCLA was a tagalong. USC is the prize. So the PAC would still be in a death spiral and neither of the CA schools would be getting any of the payout. Smarter move would be for regents to try getting UCLA to kick some amount of their B1G money over the Cal.

That was the rumor I heard, they will allow it if they split revenue. But I also heard that rumor about Iowa and Iowa state several months ago and nothing about it since.

I think if one state/regents/school can pull it off it will blow up nation wide. Cal will want to share with UCLA, Iowa State with Iowa, Oklahoma State with Oklahoma, Tech and TCU with Texas and aTm… and so on.

 

[RustShack]

You are going to have to be ready to have your head spin. I know for a fact this is happening sooner rather than later.

It just makes sense, they can find the sweet spot price for charging a streaming fee. They don’t mean it won’t be carried where it already is. The people dropping direct TV just to stream ESPN probably end up paying more for ESPN, but less for the other content they didn’t care about.

 

[Gonzo]

That was the rumor I heard, they will allow it if they split revenue. But I also heard that rumor about Iowa and Iowa state several months ago and nothing about it since.

I think if one state/regents/school can pull it off it will blow up nation wide. Cal will want to share with UCLA, Iowa State with Iowa, Oklahoma State with Oklahoma, Tech and TCU with Texas and aTm… and so on.

I bunked with Brian Ferentz in section 8 housing... he was on top.

I can't imagine it happening with schools that are already in the SEC or B1G. It's not like Tech or TCU could all of a sudden come for A&M's SEC money. I couldn't even really see OSU trying to get OU money or Tech/TCU trying to get Texas money. Those moves have been announced and neither state government/body has put up the stink that CA is. I honestly don't think CA will succeed in blocking UCLA's move if they try, but if they do, whatever. It won't stop B1G from adding 2 PAC schools. One just won't be UCLA and CA will lose altogether.

 

[jctisu]

It just makes sense, they can find the sweet spot price for charging a streaming fee. They don’t mean it won’t be carried where it already is. The people dropping direct TV just to stream ESPN probably end up paying more for ESPN, but less for the other content they didn’t care about.

They are working on the timing of the amount of OTA losses each year to when streaming their core networks (ESPN, ESPN2, etc.) overlaps and then heads toward streaming and into the future making the most sense. That time is coming soon for them, as well as what many have said in many posts before this one.

I live in CT and being out here you meet so many people that work for ESPN and Disney. I have a large network of friends that work for the company and they have told me a lot of what's going on with this stuff. Do I know the specifics? Nope. But I do know their linear OTA stuff will be on ESPN+/Disney+ in the coming years.

 

[RustShack]

I can't imagine it happening with schools that are already in the SEC or B1G. It's not like Tech or TCU could all of a sudden come for A&M's SEC money. I couldn't even really see OSU trying to get OU money or Tech/TCU trying to get Texas money. Those moves have been announced and neither state government/body has put up the stink that CA is. I honestly don't think CA will succeed in blocking UCLA's move if they try, but if they do, whatever. It won't stop B1G from adding 2 PAC schools. One just won't be UCLA and CA will lose altogether.

To an extent I agree, but a lot of these moves aren’t live at the moment. All the new money isn’t being paid yet. If Cal wins this(and they probably won’t), a lot of schools would follow if they did.

 

[Gonzo]

To an extent I agree, but a lot of these moves aren’t live at the moment. All the new money isn’t being paid yet. If Cal wins this(and they probably won’t), a lot of schools would follow if they did.

I bunked with Brian Ferentz in section 8 housing... he was on top.

I honestly don't see how Iowa's regents could go to Iowa, which has been in the B1G for 120+ years, and say 'you now need to start kicking some of that new B1G revenue to ISU.' The only reason I think there's a minute chance it could work for Cal is if the CA regents figure out a way to stimy UCLA's move since it's yet to officially happen. And again, if it becomes too big a headache the B1G could just move on to the next USC tagalong, in which case CA is completely screwed.

 

[BCClone]

To an extent I agree, but a lot of these moves aren’t live at the moment. All the new money isn’t being paid yet. If Cal wins this(and they probably won’t), a lot of schools would follow if they did.

There was a couple reps at the Iowa statehouse that wanted Iowa and ISU to kick in some of their AD money to find UNI.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

You would think if you had a firetv stick or something it could collate all of your programming. Like here's the list of games on, this is on ESPN, this is fox, NBC, etc. Click here... Oh it looks like you don't have that channel, would you like to add it for $$? Something like that. Kind of like how they do it with movies right now on their how to watch area, or other ways to watch.

I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure my fire TV shows popular shows/movies/TNF on the Home Screen regardless of app it’s on. I usually spend little to no time on the Home Screen though.

Yep It does, but I mean like a live tv section where it has all content, you can sort by sports and you get a list of what is on at that time, regardless of whether you have a subscription for it or not. And if not, a link to get it or something like their "other ways to watch" for movies or shows.

 

[JHUNSY]

Wait, Kliavkoff threw out climate change as part of the reasoning to why UC board of regents should block UCLA’s move? Because I’m sure PAC-12 athletics is totally carbon neutral with their set-up today, spanning from Tucson to Seattle.



This is not meant to be a political post or infer any stance on climate change, just seems like he’s grasping at straws at this point.

 

[JHUNSY]

 

[Pope]

Wait, Kliavkoff threw out climate change as part of the reasoning to why UC board of regents should block UCLA’s move? Because I’m sure PAC-12 athletics is totally carbon neutral with their set-up today, spanning from Tucson to Seattle.



This is not meant to be a political post or infer any stance on climate change, just seems like he’s grasping at straws at this point.

Wow, Kliavkoff has pulled out the climate change card.

 

[JM4CY]

Wait, Kliavkoff threw out climate change as part of the reasoning to why UC board of regents should block UCLA’s move? Because I’m sure PAC-12 athletics is totally carbon neutral with their set-up today, spanning from Tucson to Seattle.



This is not meant to be a political post or infer any stance on climate change, just seems like he’s grasping at straws at this point.

That's window dressing at best. They gon'.

 

[20eyes]

Wow, Kliavkoff has pulled out the climate change card.

JFC, if he didn't seem desperate before... yikes...

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I would love to grab anther Pac12 school that wasn't ucla

 

[Gorm]

I would laugh like crazy if UCLA gets dumped back to the Pac-12 and Stanford moves to the Big 10.

 

[SCNCY]

I would laugh like crazy if UCLA gets dumped back to the Pac-12 and Stanford moves to the Big 10.

Yeah, I would love to see UCLA be forced to rescind it's invitation to join the Big 10.

I don't think it will happen as it looks like the most likely scenario is that UCLA will be forced to share some of its athletics revenue with Cal.

 

[WhoISthis]

Wait, Kliavkoff threw out climate change as part of the reasoning to why UC board of regents should block UCLA’s move? Because I’m sure PAC-12 athletics is totally carbon neutral with their set-up today, spanning from Tucson to Seattle.



This is not meant to be a political post or infer any stance on climate change, just seems like he’s grasping at straws at this point.

The PAC is a laughingstock at this point

 

[BCClone]

I would love to grab anther Pac12 school that wasn't ucla

Washington state says Hi.

 

[isucy86]

If they block UCLA’s move, there’s probably three scenarios.

They take USC and Stanford.

They take USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford.

Or they take USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington(potentially minus Oregon if ND decides to jump).

From a travel standpoint, it seems like the Big 10 would stick with even number teams from Pac10. Not so important for football- but it would be efficient for MBB, WBB and VB when current Big 10 teams travel to west coast.

If UCLA joining Big10 becomes too big a political fiasco, then that opens the door for Big10 to add Stanford, Wash & Oregon.

Sure the Big10 would love to add ND, but IMO their add would be tied to Big 10 adding an ACC team. It would be tough for a UVA or UNC to break their GOR and leave behind media money. But I am sure Big10 lawyers could figure a way to to replace that money from Big10's TV money. After all, ND's media value is far north of the $75M that Big 10 schools are reportedly getting.