Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Rods79]

Huh.

ESPN wants to be the hub of all live sports streaming — even if it helps its competition

The idea aims to make ESPN the TV guide of live sports. The network has held talks with major leagues and media companies, sources said.

www.cnbc.com

How is this different that what most smart tv interfaces and set top box services like Nvidia, Apple, Google, and Amazon already do? Sounds like this is a tough row to hoe for ESPN.

 

[Clonehomer]

I’m curious how unequal the ACC could get. Seems like the numbers just aren’t big enough to have a significant gap between top and bottom. Add $5m to the top teams and subtract $5m from the bottom teams? Is that enough to keep them happy? Would they be able to go more than that?

Also, and kinda funny/ironic, if they do something, aren’t they just increasing their future buyout when they inevitably want to leave early?

Well, take $5m from each of the bottom 10 teams and give $12.5m to the top 4 teams. Seems like the beginning of a breakup, but maybe?

Or, if these teams are such great football powerhouses, just tell them that any year the ACC gets an at large bid to the CFP beyond the auto-qualifier, the CFP teams will get 50% of that extra revenue.

 

[Lafaester54]

Iowa's been growing, but it's not growing enough to be a big market (and may very likely lose population in the next census as a result of current events).

The Hawks just aren't a big time national brand. They're respected, but they don't have a following outside a smaller population state that they share with another school.

I think they should do a blue bloods only league and let the rest of us have our own thing.

Blue Blood East:
Georgia
Clemson
Ohio State
Michigan
Pedo State
Florida
Florida State
Tennessee

Blue Blood West:
Notre Dame
Bama
Texas
OU
USC
A&M
LSU
Nebraska or UCLA (?)

Interesting speculation tho I’m wondering why Nebraska was conditionally included. Nebraska has about half of Iowa’s population and has been irrelevant in football for a long, long time. And …… they really suck.

 

[CoKane]

 

[Gunnerclone]

This would make so much sense now that BYU is in the fold.

 

[UnbiasedHawk]

Well, take $5m from each of the bottom 10 teams and give $12.5m to the top 4 teams. Seems like the beginning of a breakup, but maybe?

Or, if these teams are such great football powerhouses, just tell them that any year the ACC gets an at large bid to the CFP beyond the auto-qualifier, the CFP teams will get 50% of that extra revenue.

Yeah I guess if it gets above $10m then it does move the needle a bit for them. Still kinda funny that would then increase their eventual buyout amount too.

 

[simply1]

Interesting to watch. I don’t think anyone really knows what the gor would end up being if litigated, the monetary risk of losing has always been too great. I wonder if FSU sees the risk as more worth taking given how far behind they will fall in that amount of time if they don’t try. Just speculating.

 

[Gorm]

Interesting to watch. I don’t think anyone really knows what the gor would end up being if litigated, the monetary risk of losing has always been too great. I wonder if FSU sees the risk as more worth taking given how far behind they will fall in that amount of time if they don’t try. Just speculating.

None of the leagues want a court percent that could lead to schools leaving for any conference at any point in time.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

You gotta think that the Big ten has to be eyeing the south. Even if they would get NC, they are leaving huge and growing states like Florida, Texas, Georgia, out of their conference. I wonder if they would go hard after FSU or Miami just to try to hook something down there.

This is what I am thinking, if the B10 wanted Oregon and Washington, they would have an offer by now, they are slow playing them, knowing that both schools want the invite and are willing to wait. It just makes more sense to go after the ACC schools, even if that means waiting 5 to 10 years to do it.
The B10 already has a Pacific time zone game each week starting next year, another one is going not going to make a huge difference. Go after NCU, VU, FSU, and then once again offer ND, if they refuse, pick another school.

The B12 should be offering the two Arizona schools the moment the new P12 deal is announced if it's as bad as everyone is hearing. Get them to jump, the offer Oregon and Washington, full membership no buy in, but if you take the deal, you are all in, no leaving. Give them a week to decide, if they say no, then make the same pitch to Colorado and Utah.

 

[Gunnerclone]

This is what I am thinking, if the B10 wanted Oregon and Washington, they would have an offer by now, they are slow playing them, knowing that both schools want the invite and are willing to wait. It just makes more sense to go after the ACC schools, even if that means waiting 5 to 10 years to do it.
The B10 already has a Pacific time zone game each week starting next year, another one is going not going to make a huge difference. Go after NCU, VU, FSU, and then once again offer ND, if they refuse, pick another school.

The B12 should be offering the two Arizona schools the moment the new P12 deal is announced if it's as bad as everyone is hearing. Get them to jump, the offer Oregon and Washington, full membership no buy in, but if you take the deal, you are all in, no leaving. Give them a week to decide, if they say no, then make the same pitch to Colorado and Utah.

I could see the Big Ten really making Oregon and Washington bend over when it comes to the initial revenue sharing and length of time to full membership. These are leftovers to the Big 10. They already got their A Group out of the PAC-Done.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

I could see the Big Ten really making Oregon and Washington bend over when it comes to the initial revenue sharing and length of time to full membership. These are leftovers to the Big 10. They already got their A Group out of the PAC-Done.

The real question no one is talking about is how large of a conference does both the SEC and B10 want to become and still be a functioning conference, not a confederation of schools like the AAU is? What is the number that they aiming for? Each conference is soon to be 16, one would think that 18 to 20 would be double, but are they willing to continue to add teams and go even higher?
I think the both the B10 and SEC want to pick over the ACC, then they see what happens after that, which puts Oregon and Washington in a bind, and the B12 should go after them now, and try to sell the idea it's better to end up with us, and our TV deal then hold out, hoping for an invite and in up in the MWC.

 

[Gunnerclone]

The real question no one is talking about is how large of a conference does both the SEC and B10 want to become and still be a functioning conference, not a confederation of schools like the AAU is? What is the number that they aiming for? Each conference is soon to be 16, one would think that 18 to 20 would be double, but are they willing to continue to add teams and go even higher?
I think the both the B10 and SEC want to pick over the ACC, then they see what happens after that, which puts Oregon and Washington in a bind, and the B12 should go after them now, and try to sell the idea it's better to end up with us, and our TV deal then hold out, hoping for an invite and in up in the MWC.

That’s a good point. I think 18 would be a sweet spot…for now, which makes Oregon and Washington’s spot even tougher because if they don’t jump when given an opportunity like this, the ACC schools will when it’s their turn. And I see a lot of talk about the ACC’s GOR but I’d like to know what it would cost UNC and UVA to get out right now. Those are mega-money schools.

 

[BCClone]

The real question no one is talking about is how large of a conference does both the SEC and B10 want to become and still be a functioning conference, not a confederation of schools like the AAU is? What is the number that they aiming for? Each conference is soon to be 16, one would think that 18 to 20 would be double, but are they willing to continue to add teams and go even higher?
I think the both the B10 and SEC want to pick over the ACC, then they see what happens after that, which puts Oregon and Washington in a bind, and the B12 should go after them now, and try to sell the idea it's better to end up with us, and our TV deal then hold out, hoping for an invite and in up in the MWC.

They are going without divisions I thought. How do you go without divisions with 20 teams? You wouldn't even play half the teams. You would have to go to 10 or 11 conference games just to try to not have 4 undefeated teams.

 

[CascadeClone]

They are going without divisions I thought. How do you go without divisions with 20 teams? You wouldn't even play half the teams. You would have to go to 10 or 11 conference games just to try to not have 4 undefeated teams.

Not playing everybody is a feature, not a bug. Having 4 undefeated teams gets you 4 CFP picks and a bigger share of the coin. SEC discovered it, B1G is trying to get on the train too.

And there's always ways to X-Y-Y your way to happiness. Or X-Y-Y-Y.

 

[2speedy1]

They are going without divisions I thought. How do you go without divisions with 20 teams? You wouldn't even play half the teams. You would have to go to 10 or 11 conference games just to try to not have 4 undefeated teams.

Divisions in a 20 team conf is just a super conf with 2 subconferences inside. The 2 subconf champs would meet in the championship.

The only other thing would be to A) only play noncon P5 teams from the other subcon, or B) an increase to the number of games played either at the conf level or total games.

Not sure that would be the way to go, But who knows.

 

[BCClone]

Not playing everybody is a feature, not a bug. Having 4 undefeated teams gets you 4 CFP picks and a bigger share of the coin. SEC discovered it, B1G is trying to get on the train too.

And there's always ways to X-Y-Y your way to happiness. Or X-Y-Y-Y.

Then who plays in the CCG?

 

[BCClone]

Divisions in a 20 team conf is just a super conf with 2 subconferences inside. The 2 subconf champs would meet in the championship.

The only other thing would be to A) only play noncon P5 teams from the other subcon, or B) an increase to the number of games played either at the conf level or total games.

Not sure that would be the way to go, But who knows.

Yeah, what I would think, but these guys are saying no divisions. So I was wondering what they would do if they didn’t have divisions, because if they do, does it become another west and east set up? Good teams want to play the good teams usually.

 

[isucy86]

Caught a little of the SLC (Monty?) show. They have become unhinged and if that is their normal show, they do very little research and basically just try to do hot feeds. You can tell they are scared right now with that show.

Watched them on YouTube for about a week. It doesn't take long to figure they don't have a lot of inside info. Just reacting to other media reports and provide a Utah shock jock take.

 

[isucy86]

I’m curious how unequal the ACC could get. Seems like the numbers just aren’t big enough to have a significant gap between top and bottom. Add $5m to the top teams and subtract $5m from the bottom teams? Is that enough to keep them happy? Would they be able to go more than that?

Also, and kinda funny/ironic, if they do something, aren’t they just increasing their future buyout when they inevitably want to leave early?

It's tough to spread the "conference media rights" monies. But NCAA Tournament and CFB Playoff money could be awarded based on performance to create uneven distribution. IMO that is why FSU's AD is pushing the issue now. He's getting out front on 12 Team CFB Playoff $.

The monies from open market bidding on the 12 team CFP will be available to the conferences starting with 2026 season. And the Hoops Tournament will likely go out to open bid around 2032. The CFP monies could very well be $250-$300M for the conferences (the conferences get around $80M today). So that is a huge chunk of money the ACC (its Schools) could use to create a merit based uneven distribution.

 

[Gonzo]

It's tough to spread the "conference media rights" monies. But NCAA Tournament and CFB Playoff money could be awarded based on performance to create uneven distribution. IMO that is why FSU's AD is pushing the issue now. He's getting out front on 12 Team CFB Playoff $.

The monies from open market bidding on the 12 team CFP will be available to the conferences starting with 2026 season. And the Hoops Tournament will likely go out to open bid around 2032. The CFP monies could very well be $250-$300M for the conferences (the conferences get around $80M today). So that is a huge chunk of money the ACC (its Schools) could use to create a merit based uneven distribution.

But why do that? It's just going to p*ss off half the conference and financially reward the schools who are most likely to bolt for a new conference the second it becomes feasible.