Potential Transfers '14
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He signed with us while there was still interest from Kentucky. So in essence, he chose us over Kentucky. If he would have waited to make sure the Harrisons stayed, and then signed with us, then fine he didn't pick us over them.
Also, UCLA and Cincinnati were showing interest. Definitely not blue bloods, but it's not like it was just us and Arizona St. interested in him.
But I don't know why I'm arguing this with you. Whatever, the guy will be a scrub because Kansas didn't want him, Kentucky didn't offer him, only showed interest, yada yada yada.
You said the blue bloods are going to get more active in getting the top transfers. BDJ is going to be a top ten impact transfer next year by almost everyone that has done impact transfer lists. So why is it that ISU still got him?
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Epic Fail. I said that I think that more of the big schools are going to start recruiting from the transfer pool in the future and that may lead to them even holding back a scholly that they previously might have given to a lesser recruit that would most likely never progress off the end of their bench. Since the BDJ signing was in the past, not the future, my thoughts on how this will go in the future have no bearings on why BDJ chose ISU in the past instead of one of the schools I am talking about. Future.....Past. Different things.
Oh, so it's an opinion. My opinion is you are wrong.
I think I can predict the future just as well. I predict we will get into signing some 5 star high schoolers well before the blue bloods dip into our niche of transfers. So your prediction of the future is moot.
Duke already plucked Rodney Hood and made him into a lottery pick. More will follow. It will be interesting to watch.
I would think KU would only want 5 star fresh(man) meat and get the recruiting over.
Simple answer is yes. Iowa State is the blue blood when it comes to transfers. Hoiberg has shown he is willing to focus his offense around a one and done transferring senior if the talent warrants it.
This is a phenomenally stupid argument. But I also have long been of the opinion that as accepting transfers becomes more and more mainstream, the recruiting of transfers will get more difficult. Iowa State has a great track record in that regard so they won't fall off the map, but it will likely get more difficult. That is, unless the NCAA nerfs the transfer game if the favored programs start calling foul.
Kansas already plucked Tariq Black and made him into a backup of a 5 star recruit. If more follow, it will be interesting to watch.
Indiana played the market heavy this year too and AZ beat us on some transfers this year if I recall. I think you points have some merit. But not as much as you think and I also think it will leave more openings for HS talent.
We got closer with a premium transfer like Anderson than we have in the past. Clyburn is the closest thing to an Anderson level transfer recruit, but we got him due to normal recruiting circumstance rather than some systemic advantage that is going to decline. In fact, the one transfer recruit with a definite elite-program offer was White, which of landed, but even he was damaged goods to most other programs. We had more success in gaining interest from the elite transfer recruits (not players, there is a difference) than ever. I expect that trend to continue, not decrease.
Will there even be a significant increase in % of transfers with elite programs recruiting them? I am not sold on that happening. Will there be more transfers included in the classes of elite programs? Of course, as there are more elite transfers. However, I do not see programs like UNC, Duke, or even 'Zona, going after the kind of transfers ISU that have rebuilt ISU into a program with legitimate title aspirations. They are not passing up likely top-50, top-75 preps for the 3rd leading scorer on a Penn State team, or 2 for 1 guys kick-off their previous team, etc. Better yet, the more scholarships the elites spend on transfers (especially redshirts), the more likely the fringe top-level, multi-year prep recruits (like Georges) fall to Fred and Co.
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Also, I bet immediately eligible guys would be more likely to sign with a UK type program in the spring than guys that have to sit a year. Graduate transfers know the team they are walking into while guys who have to sit a year have to assume the elite programs will bring in a top 10 recruit to play their position.
Of course, hopefully that's Iowa State's problem in the next few years...
Of course, hopefully that's Iowa State's problem in the next few years...
Last night, the Diallo thread, tonight, the transfers thread. Just to be clear, it's just as much the people arguing with tuco as tuco.
It's definitely the other posters. I mean he has twice as many posts as the other posters combined, but it's definitely everybody else.
I am not predicting some seismic shift in the world, just think that as more and more of these transfers have immediate, high-level impacts that the teams that aren't currently doing it MIGHT start doing it more. And I 100% agree with you that if that happens then the recruits that they would then be passing on would find themselves going to different schools. Nothing stays the same in recruiting. Teams will always be looking to see what they can do differently to improve.