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Potential Transfers '14

Rhoadhoused said:
Well we took a few players since Hoiberg has been here that were not good enough. He has a high hit % but nobody's perfect. It's all about risk management.
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-Yep, and he has changed his recruiting because of that. Hence, we have three scholarships available in mid-April chasing guys that we have real data on instead of speculating on preps and low-grade jucos. In case you missed it, Fred mentioned we would even be game for keeping a scholarship open rather than taking a chance on guys. The risk of "not being good" is essentially non-existent if we are after them this spring.

-Also, with what we need, a 5th year guy could be a "hit", and not put up great stats, or play over 20 minutes a game
 
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swarthmoreCY said:
-Yep, and he has changed his recruiting because of that. Hence, we have three scholarships available in mid-April chasing guys that we have real data on instead of speculating on preps and low-grade jucos. In case you missed it, Fred mentioned we would even be game for keeping a scholarship open rather than taking a chance on guys. The risk of "not being good" is essentially non-existent if we are after them this spring.

-Also, with what we need, a 5th year guy could be a "hit", and not put up great stats, or play over 20 minutes a game
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Not sure what you are trying to convince me of. My statement stands and is unchanged by what you said.

It is riskier to take a guy who has never produced than one who has.
 
Rhoadhoused said:
Not sure what you are trying to convince me of. My statement stands and is unchanged by what you said.

It is riskier to take a guy who has never produced than one who has.
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You said "but more risk involved than some of the others we are looking at."

Now maybe you have a more comprehensive list than the rest of us (and if you do, you should share), but sans Anderson, he is the least risky, and Anderson is not eligible for next season. You know the most about what you are getting with Horford, at least in the negative sense- the least amount of risk.

When you are willing, if not wanting to hold a scholarship open, the act of taking him would mean the risk you want to attribute to him does not exist.
 
After initially being denied, Houston's Danuel House and TaShawn Thomas have filed an appeal to seek release

Danuel House 6'7" SF 5 star... Interesting
https://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Danuel-House-107686

Thomas was a 3 star with a number of good offers too.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-TaShawn-Thomas-107213
 
If you're a 5 star with offers from Kansas, Ohio State, Arizona, and Texas, and choose to go to Houston, you're going to be transferring before your college career is over.
 
ISUCubswin said:
If you're a 5 star with offers from Kansas, Ohio State, Arizona, and Texas, and choose to go to Houston, you're going to be transferring before your college career is over.
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I feel like you could say the same thing, but replace Houston with UNLV...
 
House would be a perfect as a transfer to sit out a year. He originally committed to Houston because it was the hometown school.
 
I'd take both. My first choice would be Thomas to replace Hogue. He would probably start here his senior season to after McKay, Nader, and Georges all leave too.
 
swarthmoreCY said:
You said "but more risk involved than some of the others we are looking at."

Now maybe you have a more comprehensive list than the rest of us (and if you do, you should share), but sans Anderson, he is the least risky, and Anderson is not eligible for next season. You know the most about what you are getting with Horford, at least in the negative sense- the least amount of risk.

When you are willing, if not wanting to hold a scholarship open, the act of taking him would mean the risk you want to attribute to him does not exist.
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Like I said a few posts up.


Tier 1- BDJ & Ryan Anderson. Maybe BDJ is actually on his own tier as a guy who is proven and immediately eligible, but these two guys are the best and most talented guys we are going after that I know of. They are both talented, both proven, 1 is immediately eligible and one has to sit a year.

Tier 2- This is where I put Horford. He can play right away but has never proven he can contribute at the D1 level for any extended period of time.


There is no risk with Anderson. The only risk with BDJ is that he will be a bad teammate I guess? FH has had plenty of success with those type of personalities as well. BDJ's talent is undeniable though and he is ready right away. Those two things make him much, much less risky along with FH's ability to manage egos.

But like I said, Horford is not bad, just below those guys. I'd put Antoin Mason in tier 1 as well if he transfered from Niagra.

Also, not sure why you compared the risk of signing Horford vs the risk of doing nothing and not the risk of signing a more talented graduate transfer or a more talented sit and play guy. I'd rather have a younger transfer you could develop that has to sit a year than Horford. I don't think Fred is that afraid to commit an extra year of scholarship to a talented player. Would you rather have Horford for a year play 10 minutes a game or have Edozie play those 10 and have a Clyburn/Lucious/Babb type player who could possible play for multiple years after?
 
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Rhoadhoused said:
Like I said a few posts up.


Tier 1- BDJ & Ryan Anderson. Maybe BDJ is actually on his own tier as a guy who is proven and immediately eligible, but these two guys are the best and most talented guys we are going after that I know of. They are both talented, both proven, 1 is immediately eligible and one has to sit a year.

Tier 2- This is where I put Horford. He can play right away but has never proven he can contribute at the D1 level for any extended period of time.


There is no risk with Anderson. The only risk with BDJ is that he will be a bad teammate I guess? FH has had plenty of success with those type of personalities as well. BDJ's talent is undeniable though and he is ready right away. Those two things make him much, much less risky along with FH's ability to manage egos.

But like I said, Horford is not bad, just below those guys. I'd put Antoin Mason in tier 1 as well if he transfered from Niagra.
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Now you are talking about talent, which is different than risk. Your comment about Horford's risk was wrong.
Horford has little risk, he also may have little reward.
 
swarthmoreCY said:
Now you are talking about talent, which is different than risk. Your comment about Horford's risk was wrong.
Horford has little risk, he also may have little reward.
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You're risking that he isn't good enough to play at the D1 level. That's a risk. That's what I said in my first reply to you.
 
Rhoadhoused said:
You're risking that he isn't good enough to play at the D1 level. That's a risk. That's what I said in my first reply to you.
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Nope. A big reason you are taking transfers and 5th years is that they are known commodities- you know that Horford is a 4 and 4 guy. There is no projection with Horford- he is about as known as you can be. If you offer him, it is because that level of play is good enough.
 
swarthmoreCY said:
Nope. A big reason you are taking transfers and 5th years is that they are known commodities- you know that Horford is a 4 and 4 guy. There is no projection with Horford- he is about as known as you can be. If you offer him, it is because that level of play is good enough.
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Oryou think hecan produce more in a different system and role.
 
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