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On That Note: One Bad Apple

MeanDean

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Welcome to another On That Note - that we've purposely delayed by one day - due to the Tuesday night MBB game. With the ladies playing early, we decided to go after that, tonight.

Your OTN hosts are @cyclones500, @CycloneRulzzz and me.

The topic is "Great" albums that contain one "Bad" song. Great and Bad being very subjective - so it's all what YOU think are great or bad. Please elaborate on why the Bad song is not your favorite.

Comments on posts are welcomed/encouraged, but please be respectful. Discuss things about the song, don't attack the person.

Post should contain a minimum of two songs; at least one of the great songs and the one clunker.

Last week's OTN was "Let It Snow." It can be found here:

On That Note: Let It Snow | CycloneFanatic: The Internet's most popular site for fans of the Iowa State Cyclones

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My first one:

Zombies - Odessey and Oracle

Such a great album. Perfect pop/psych period piece. The bad one is Butcher's Tale (Western Front 1914). It's just so depressing and with the vintage pump-organ sounds so out of place on a 60s masterpiece. And to think Date records picked it as an initial US single release. I think maybe because it had an anti-war theme. No surprise it died with no interest.

Good Ones:




Clunker:
 
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The Beatles
Revolver
Weak Link: Yellow Submarine

Not the first time I’ve mentioned this in a CF music thread (OTN or otherwise).

The song is OK, it's the "Ringo lead vocal" novelty. But the production quality is weak, compared to almost every other track.

The possibility of having “Rain” or even “Paperback Writer” instead of Submarine, those would fit so much better sonically … missed opportunity. I realize that’s how The Beatles structured LPs during the period.



Among cream-of-crop (I could have chosen at least 5 others):





Runner-up weak spot: probably "Love You To" … Might work better if it were later in the song sequence.
 
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Frack, put two brilliant posts in the thread about the Twister Sisters. Duh.

Led Zeppelin IV Full of Brilliance (Black Dog, Misty Mountain Hop, Battle of Evermore...I know, right?) except for:

 
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The Cars
Candy-O
Weak Link: You Can’t Hold on Too Long

I like the intro & outro (which basically are the same), but everything in between bores the s*** out of me.

It has the additional disadvantage of album sequence, it follows Double Life, Shoo-Be-Do, the title track and Night Spots.



Runner-up “weak spot” — Since I Held You

Among the good:






 
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Bad Company first album (Can't Get Enough, Ready for Love, Rock Steady), and then...

Yikes.

 
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Bad Moon Rising,...."Green River" is a great album.


Albert King

Look at this band,....
Any questions?


"The Unforgettable Fire",...."Bad"


Ronnie Montrose was the lead guitar for Edgar Winter. He went with his own group shortly after "Frankenstein" hit big. Had a lead vocalist who got pretty big ,.................Sammy Hagar.
 
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The story here is I thought it was a dud, but later changed my mind.

I had actually purchased U2 Joshua Tree album over a weekend, but had been away and had not yet opened it. On Monday a co-worker and I discussed it and he said he'd copy it from cassette for me so I could return it. Sounded good so I never opened it.

He brought me the tape. Turns out the whole album was too long to fit on one side of a 90 minute tape. So he determined that Bullet the Blue Sky would be the right length song to leave off.

So for me, the album initially never had the song.

Later I acquired the CD and upon playing it the first couple times thought, "Oh, this is not good."

As often happens upon further listens I actually decided, though it sounds different than the rest of the album, it is actually one of my favorites.

So the dud became a non-dud.





 
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So the opposite of a one-hit-wonder album? I love The Who Quadrophenia but I remember road tripping and skipping the next to the last song on my car CD player to hear Love, Reign O'er Me. The song is a instrumental, The Rock, and I really don't hate listening to it now...


 
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Alain Souchon, C'est Comme Vous Voulez (très nineties)

OUI



OUI



OUI



Nooooooooooooon, NON, NON, NON, NOOOOOOOOOOOOON

 
Bernie Leadon Michael Georgiades, Natural Progressions

Yes:



Yes:



Yes:



Nope, nyet, nein, nunca, non...

 
Staying with The Who. Classic Who's Next

  • Baba O’Riley
  • Bargain
  • Love Ain’t for Keeping
  • My Wife
  • The Song Is Over
  • Getting in Tune
  • Going Mobile
  • Behind Blue Eyes
  • Won’t Get Fooled Again
Again, I don't hate it but Getting in Tune...


 
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Bob Dylan
Highway 61 Revisited
Weak link: Ballad of a Thin Man

Lyrically, the storytelling sprawl approach is consistent in context of the album, but it’s like it contains the worst aspects of all the other tracks. Musically, it’s sluggish/sloggish and over-long.




A couple (among many) high points:



 
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Huge Garth Brooks fan and Ropin the Wind is nearly a masterpiece. Bangers Like Against the Grain, Rodeo, The River, Lonesome Dove and then We Bury the Hatchet is the wet blanket.











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cyclones500 said:
Bob Dylan
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The only Dylan album I own is from his Christianity phase, "Slow Train Running" (saw him at the Orpheum in Omaha, people kept walking out...), can't remember why I bought the LP, but hey, s'all good.

and actually, this one isn't terrible:



Musically, this one was okay...



And this one, I like much better now than then...



And, believe it or not...



So, the Grand Prix Stinker was:

 
Americana by Offspring is another great album, Pretty Fly for a White Guy, She's got Issues and why don't you get a job. Then after an album full of the upbeat sound of the offspring the last track is a slow, boring 8 minute suck-fest in Pay the Man.








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pourcyne said:
The only Dylan album I own is from his Christianity phase, "Slow Train Running" (saw him at the Orpheum in Omaha, people kept walking out...), can't remember why I bought the LP, but hey, s'all good.



I told a friend about a couple really good Bob Dylan shows I saw on the West Coast, so he goes to see him at that Omaha show right after he got Religion. Oh he was pissed! So then several years pass and, on my recommendation, he sees a Neil young show at the Civic Auditorium. It was with the Shocking Pinks and must have been awful, too!
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I guess my favorite Dylan album was his Classic Blood on the Tracks...


  • Tangled Up in Blue
  • Simple Twist of Fate
  • You're a Big Girl Now
  • Idiot Wind
  • You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go
  • Meet Me in the Morning
  • Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts
  • If You See Her, Say Hello
  • Shelter from the Storm
  • Buckets of Rain
I could live without the 8th track though...



My favorite good song is one I often listen to when a friend passes...


 
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I'm going to throw in Dua Lipa's "Future Nostalgia". This is the album that got me through the early days of the pandemic. Great energy and just flat out fun to listen to...







...until the song "Boys Will Be Boys". It just stops the album dead in its tracks.

 
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