From the opening kick, CPR showed he was going to take every opportunity to put us back in the win column. This was one of the most entertaining games I've witnessed. No matter how bad Baylor's defense may be, they are a dangerous team. I don't think I've ever seen a team go for so many 4th downs as Baylor. We beat them at their own game. Congratulations Cyclones! Beat the Sooners!
On-side Kick
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The onside kick was the start of a strange series of events
*Onside kick
*Big play for Baylor right off the bat
*Fumble into the end zone
*Large amount of penalties to move down the field
*Missed short field goal
When Baylor started with the ball at the 20 with 8:00 left in the 1st quarter, me and my friends were saying that we were basically starting the game seven minutes late after one of the stranger starts to a game that I've ever seen.
*Onside kick
*Big play for Baylor right off the bat
*Fumble into the end zone
*Large amount of penalties to move down the field
*Missed short field goal
When Baylor started with the ball at the 20 with 8:00 left in the 1st quarter, me and my friends were saying that we were basically starting the game seven minutes late after one of the stranger starts to a game that I've ever seen.
An onside kick in unexpected situations is one of the best statistical plays in football. I don't care on the few times it doesn't work, it's a missed opportunity to go for seasons without using it like most teams do.
This probably would have been better to see against Oklahoma instead of Baylor. Do it against a team we have less of a chance beating.
I'm guessing the logic was that we want the ball to start the game and to set a tone. We take the ball every time we win the coin flip for this reason. I'm guessing the coaches also figured that with such a high powered offense, the risk was worth it because they have a high chance of scoring anyway. Especially on the first drive of the game which is often scripted.
Just my guess.
And I just realized I have no idea if we won or lost the toss, which could make that whole post irrelevant.
I agree. Baylor had a couple of weird kickoffs: one going out of bounds at 35 and a pooch ball into an area where we had no one to catch it.
This one actually almost worked for them since we were lined up for the onside recovery.
I didn't see it clearly, it was a dribbler up the middle right? Not a pass kick? I love the pass kick.
I love the pass kick too, but I think it is illegal cause of new rule instituted this offseason. Probably cause ISU was too good at it
I disagree. It was a better call against a baylor for 2 reasons I can think of.
Baylor is so offensively minded and want space for their offense.
Also less likely to expect an gimmick as an equalizer.
OU will be ready for it either way. Baylor was caught off guard, plus there are some things about baylor that make it even less of a gamble.
They want you in space to beat you, and a short field neutralizes that more and more. So the "failed onsides" doesn't hurt as badly. With our bend don't break, redzone slanted defense, It is even better when shortening the field for baylor not only gives them less space, the D used less energy defending a longer drive. With ISU it often seems that it comes down to a stop in the red zone either way, so if part of the "fail" just happens to be fewer plays for the D to defend. Its a small thing but it is something that makes it still less of a risk. Not saing the short field is a good thing, just that its less of a big deal against a team like baylor.
Now you do the same thing with OU and they are just going to try to Overpower the Defense either way, and in a situation like that = more plays and means more chances for the D to make a play. Shortening the field on OU is dangerous, because they are more balanced and aren't JUST looking to get defenders spread and in space. They'll do that too, but they are also more capeable of pounding it out with more power and consistancy.
I like the call better against baylor than w/ OU. But wouldn't be opposed to both, just for different reasons.
The new onside kick rules make it much harder to be successful.
Rhoads gave a good explanation after the game. He said with Baylor, if they are going to score, they are going to score fast whether it is from their 20 or your 40. Implied was that possession, not field position was key. If we stop them at their 20, they will put to our 40. If we stop them at our 40, they will go for 4th down and we get it there. Not sure I totally agree, but that is what he said.
Also, he indicated that he was trying to make a statement with that call. He said that even if it didn't work, it would impact the game. I love the way that the game shifted from their offensive firepower to a game of "what is going to happen next." I think this really helped us.
Rhoads gave a good explanation after the game. He said with Baylor, if they are going to score, they are going to score fast whether it is from their 20 or your 40. Implied was that possession, not field position was key. If we stop them at their 20, they will put to our 40. If we stop them at our 40, they will go for 4th down and we get it there. Not sure I totally agree, but that is what he said.
Also, he indicated that he was trying to make a statement with that call. He said that even if it didn't work, it would impact the game. I love the way that the game shifted from their offensive firepower to a game of "what is going to happen next." I think this really helped us.
I was just happy to see the spark of life come back to this team. The kick wasn't about desperation, it was a flat out statement. It is what we have been missing for part of this season. Letting the other team know we are here to win and be aggressive.
It sucks the kick didn't work, but I was so happy to see it and wouldn't change it if I could.
I'm not sure if this is a strong enough description of this onside attempt. I LOVED the call. The execution was horrible. I'm hoping and assuming that the only reason Arceo is kicking this year is to redshirt Netten and have him for the next four years.