OL Jacob Gannon has left the ISU program

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If winners never quit and quitters never win, how does someone quit while they're ahead

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I told my wife an O-lineman left and I swear to you she just asked me "So is Rashad Vaughn taking his place?"

No lie. Still laughing.

She can be credited for the official "Hoiberg will be the new FB coach" rumor as she obviously has inside info that Vaughn was holding out to play FB.
 
If this is a sign that the recent poor play has the staff testing the mettle of the team to a level that forces some to quit, I'll take it. That is what we need.

Improving in every facet of the game as we need to is going to take some discomfort. It is very likely not the kind of commitment that those looking for a "balanced" life will want to be a part of. Frankly, we need guys that put football in front of everything else. Gannon is a senior on a bad team with a wonderful post-football life to live. The more players we have that do not give a **** about that life, the better.

Hopefully this is what Gannon's departure is about and he is in good health.
 
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What shocks me most about this is that I was told Gannon was responsible for talking two important ISU players out of quitting during camp this year. Things must be rough inside the walls right now. They need a win more than anything Saturday.
 
Rewatching the game in slo mo showed that the oline was not as bad as some say. What I saw was sloppy inept linebacking from our side and great NDSU linebacking including coverage of any receiver over the middle.
 
If this is a sign that the recent poor play has the staff testing the mettle of the team to a level that forces some to quit, I'll take it. That is what we need.

Improving in every facet of the game as we need to is going to take some discomfort. It is very likely not the kind of commitment that those looking for a "balanced" life will want to be a part of. Frankly, we need guys that put football in front of everything else. Hopefully this is what Gannon's departure is about and he is in good health.

The mettle of most of these guys was tested last year. I suspect that's a lot of the problem with the program right now.
 
I want to say this: Jacob Gannon is a quality young man from a great family....if he felt he had to leave, the problem lies much more with this program than him. Anyone complaining about this fine young man is not seeing what the real problems must be. Seriously, something is rotten.
 

I want to say this: Jacob Gannon is a quality young man from a great family....if he felt he had to leave, the problem lies much more with this program than him. Anyone complaining about this fine young man is not seeing what the real problems must be. Seriously, something is rotten.

thanks for the insight, no one could see that the program is in trouble so I am glad you pointed it out.
 
If this is a sign that the recent poor play has the staff testing the mettle of the team to a level that forces some to quit, I'll take it. That is what we need.

Improving in every facet of the game as we need to is going to take some discomfort. It is very likely not the kind of commitment that those looking for a "balanced" life will want to be a part of. Frankly, we need guys that put football in front of everything else. Hopefully this is what Gannon's departure is about and he is in good health.

Meh.......Jake Gannon is who you try to recruit. These are the guys who give a foundation. I feel MUCH worse aobut this "program" than I did even after the last game. Looking at our roster today, I noticed Coach gave his own son a scholie. nice.
 
thanks for the insight, no one could see that the program is in trouble so I am glad you pointed it out.
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You are welcome. Thanks for the affirmation. Oh, if that was sarcasm, it sucked. I challenge you to get me banned. Try it.
 
The mettle of most of these guys was tested last year. I suspect that's a lot of the problem with the program right now.
Apparently that test was not hard enough.

Most think it is the loss that tests your mettle- but it is the process of preventing future losses does. If their mettle had been tested Gannon is not quitting mid-practice in Week 2 of this year after the team going limp in Game 1.
 
Why is everyone so concerned about a player who left the team for whatever reason he wants to give? He's not coming back. Campos will start. Does this really need 39 pages of conversation about something nobody will ever know the truth unless your name is Jacob Gannon?
 
I want to say this: Jacob Gannon is a quality young man from a great family....if he felt he had to leave, the problem lies much more with this program than him. Anyone complaining about this fine young man is not seeing what the real problems must be. Seriously, something is rotten.
We are not looking for someone to date your daughter. For the program it would be better to just have average young men that are motivated by success on the field more than anything else.

Again, Big 12 football is not for everyone, and we certainly may lose some outstanding young men over that. Even worse, we may lose some naturally talented players that are okay about wasting their abilities (Coe and Irving). This cull must be done, and really should be done in recruiting.
 
Meh.......Jake Gannon is who you try to recruit. These are the guys who give a foundation. I feel MUCH worse aobut this "program" than I did even after the last game. Looking at our roster today, I noticed Coach gave his own son a scholie. nice.

Where did you see this? Last I knew Jake was a walkon.
 
He was in the program 4 years. He should have had a pretty good idea by this past summer of what year 5 was going to look like.

Attitude is within your own control. If you find yourself in a situation where your "heart's not into it," you might need to make a conscious decision to get your heart back into it.
Just to be clear, I'm taking the public statement -- "burnout" -- at face value and making my criticisms based on that.

I can imagine circumstances that would justify walking out mid-season. I am just hoping the program doesn't have those kinds of issues.
 
Apparently that test was not hard enough.

Most think it is the loss that tests your mettle- but it is the process of preventing future losses does. If their mettle had been tested Gannon is not quitting mid-practice in Week 2 of this year after the team going limp in Game 1.

I wasn't talking about the losses. I'll bet Gannon quit because he was sick of being tested rather than coached.
 
Why is everyone so concerned about a player who left the team for whatever reason he wants to give? He's not coming back. Campos will start. Does this really need 39 pages of conversation about something nobody will ever know the truth unless your name is Jacob Gannon?
Posts like this are the most worthless on CF. People that complain about a thread but know damn well what its about: speculation.
You just contributed to it too.
 
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