OL Jacob Gannon has left the ISU program

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Im more worried how soft our oline has proven to be. We have had several good coaches there with REALLY poor success. Starting to look less of a coaching issue, vs who we have recruited this year.

Going back to the Chizik era, its hard to believe how far we have fallen on the oline.

Kinda what I'm thinking right now.
 
The timing is terrible for the program, but I can understand the kid wanting to give it one game to see if he still enjoys football. Isn't that what you'd do in the "real world?" Give it one last try and if you still don't enjoy it, then stop doing it. Nobody really "likes" practice, workouts, film study, etc. - it's all about the comradery and game day. If he is really burned out, then this was probably inevitable.
 
Are we really suggesting that him quitting football during his 5th year is going to interfere with his job prospects? Really?
 
In all seriousness, I think Campos hold the key for Rhoads. If he plays well, and then the move Curtis in, we could see a whole different team.


Is this the first action of Campos' college career? If so, SR is gonna be running for his life again.
 
I do expect he'll avoid this episode when the standard interview question of "Give me an example of a tough situation and how you responded" comes up.

I'm sure we know the answer - but I genuinely want to know if he stays on schollie? That, to me, says a lot about the timing. Get that first game in, make sure school has started, get that ticket punched.
 
Only people in central would know who he is or care. This is a non issue. If he's smart and hard working it doesn't matter.

Do you think he's going to put on his resume that he quit after the first game of his redshirt senior year?

No, I don't think he will put that he quit on his resume, but I guarantee that whoever interviews him will ask about his college experience. If he lists that he played at ISU on his resume (which almost all athletes do) he better be prepared to discuss it. Again, if he doesn't handle this correctly in an interview MANY people would choose not to hire him.
 
Many people are guilted into thinking this, and I was raised that way too, but it doesn't change that quitting is a perfectly rational thing to do. There are a million good reasons to quit something; is it really that difficult to envision a scenario in which it's more beneficial for the kid to leave rather than stay?

I understand people are guilted into doing many different things, and I even agree with you on that. But that is just one of many possibilities in this case, unless you have some inside info that the rest of us are not privy to. To answer your question, no, it isn't difficult to envision a scenario in which it is more beneficial to quit than to stay. With that admission, is it that difficult to envision a better time to quit, like say before fall camp got underway? This team certainly could use the scholarship that has been rendered void and useless.
 
My Kid decided to play 3 Fall sports. Cross Country is 1.

He is burnt out and wants to quit Cross country.

I said no. You are not a quitter. You don't have to go out next year, but this year you will not let your coaches and team down.

He is not on scholly. I still pay his bus pass..lol

Not knowing Gannon's situation,
but if its just burnt out that is BS.

You are in the "fun part" of the season. There is something else wrong.
 
In a crowded job market an employer will look for any reason to not select.

This is so incredibly comical. So the guy gets to put 2 time Academic All Big 12 on his resume, which will CLEARLY make him stand out from other applicants, and he's not getting the job because some random employer may not like the circumstances under which he quit football, which by all accounts appear to be he lost his desire to play and wanted to focus on his career, the very career which he is trying to start by that interview?
 
My Kid decided to play 3 Fall sports. Cross Country is 1.

He is burnt out and wants to quit Cross country.

I said no. You are not a quitter. You don't have to go out next year, but this year you will not let your coaches and team down.

He is not on scholly. I still pay his bus pass..lol

Not knowing Gannon's situation,
but if its just burnt out that is BS.

You are in the "fun part" of the season. There is something else wrong.

Your son is not a 22 year old man, capable of making adult decisions. Also, I'm not sure what your son's cross country practice entails, but I'm guessing it's not quite the strain of being a divison 1 athlete while trying to maintain a good GPA in a difficult area of studies.
 
Some of the most devoted football players that I played with are now scabs upon society. Some guys that I played with that quit are very successful people.

To judge a person off one instance in life is crazy.

All things being equal - you hire the guy that didn't quit. This goes back to the whole tattoo question about what employers SHOULD care about vs. what employers DO care about. For a generation of "quitters" maybe it shouldn't be the litmus test. For the oldest generation that may be making hiring decisions it may be a litmus test.
 
Your son is not a 22 year old man, capable of making adult decisions. Also, I'm not sure what your son's cross country practice entails, but I'm guessing it's not quite the strain of being a divison 1 athlete while trying to maintain a good GPA in a difficult area of studies.

The problem with that is that he isn't a freshman who didn't know what he was getting into.

He's a 5th year senior, and after 5-6 weeks of ACTUAL camp - not to mention, spring and off-season work.

The strain and commitments are well understood. heck - he's probably 90% to the end of the road at this point.

I agree - something else is going on here.
 
Guess I'm a ****, but I'm not going to throw out a 'wish him the best' with his future endeavors. (I know, I'm sure he'd be devastated to hear that) I'm not going to wish the plague or anything bad on him, but I certainly don't wish him the best.

He left his teammates high & dry in the middle of the season, even worse in the middle of game week for the conference opener. I don't care how 'burnt out' you are, how few wins the team is supposed to have, how mean the coaches are... Complete chicken ****, IMO.

Don't let the door hit ya on the way out..
 
Gannon (thinking to himself): Wow, I sure work with a bunch of small-minded idiots. Maybe I should find a better job...

Gannon: I quit


Sorry. Had to.

I don't think this will affect his career except for that old addage "once a quitter, always a quitter". There should be no reason any employer hangs leaving a football team for personal reasons over your head.
 
anyone thinking it's ironic hating on a kid for quitting when he has better priorities than football? You same people this whole week were saying "football is just a game, it takes time to win, we are ISU, we are never going to be conference champs,if you can't take losing, don't go to the games, blah, blah, blah". Now you are criticizing him for a decision he made that won't really effect any of your lives.

The kid is obviously pretty smart if he's a com sci major as a senior while on top of that playing division 1 football where you are practicing/playing basically a full-time job. Maybe the kid wants to focus on getting a full-time job and needs to keep up his GPA.

For a majority of people and college players (Gannon fits this, doubt he was going to the NFL), there's a certain point when you say you're done when you lose passion for something. Gannon doesn't owe anyone anything, he's willing to lose his scholarship next semester (as a CS major, he'll get the tuition money back quickly anyway). The timing of quitting sucks but at least he had the balls to do it. I'm sure he was thinking of the consequences/backlash from people after doing this, maybe that's why he held on until the first couple of weeks of the season. Let Campos show his stuff, it's not like this team will be bowling anyways.
 
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