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I mean I don't know how else to tell you but Nixon is a lot better than Lewis. Like way way better

I mean I never disagreed. Haliburton (at least last year) utilized his length in passing lanes but not on the boards. Hes rail thin. Bolton and Nixon are both 6'2" at best I dont see them being plus rebounders from the 2-3 spots. One of the three of those guys needs to become an absolute bulldog on the boards if you want to play that small in the backcourt that's all I am saying. Maybe Nixon is that guy.
 
We had a pretty long starting 5 last year and couldn't rebound worth a crap. To an extent, size doesn't mean you're a great rebounder. Being smart with your positioning, having good fundamentals, and wanting to get the rebound more than the other guy is what constitutes a great rebounder.

^Truth.^

In 8th grade I was the sixth man and shortest guy on the team and ended up being the 2nd leading rebounder. I muscled, boxed out, and jumped like a mad man. Definitely a pride thing. I miss Dustin Hogue...

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I mean I never disagreed. Haliburton (at least last year) utilized his length in passing lanes but not on the boards. Hes rail thin. Bolton and Nixon are both 6'2" at best I dont see them being plus rebounders from the 2-3 spots. One of the three of those guys needs to become an absolute bulldog on the boards if you want to play that small in the backcourt that's all I am saying. Maybe Nixon is that guy.
Kansas State the last few years has had two guards both under 6'3" starting for them, and they've been a decent rebounding team and have had success. I can see our two guards being like Stokes and Brown when it comes to the little things.
 
How anyone could look at Nixon’s production in nearly 100 games at CSU and compare that to Lewis at ISU and come to the conclusion that Lewis is better is baffling to me

Never said that. Just said we cant run 4 guard lineups like we did last year. We have a roster full of 6'0"-6'2" guards. Last year we had a roster full of 6'5"-6'6" guards. Death by a thousand cuts getting owned on the offensive boards will be enough to make me go crazy.
 
Kansas State the last few years has had two guards both under 6'3" starting for them, and they've been a decent rebounding team and have had success. I can see our two guards being like Stokes and Brown when it comes to the little things.

I mean that's just a really bad example because K States frontcourt is exactly what I proposed for Iowa State to pair with 2 smallish guards.

Xavier Sneed at the 3. 6'5" - 6'6" filled out body that can battle for boards and hit 3s. There is Terrence Lewis.

Dean Wade at the 4 is very similar to Mike Jacobsen.

Mawien at the 5 has similar length as Conditt.

Diarra also was probably a better player than Sneed last year but Sneed still started. Sometimes size/matchups/preferred style of play doesnt always allow you to start your best 5.

*Also, Barry Brown was a damn bulldog wasnt afraid of sticking his nose in there. Nixon and Bolton both may be from the same cut I just dont know yet.
 
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My top 8 in no order

1. Bolton
2. Haliburton
3. Nixon
4. Conditt
5. Jacobson
6. Young
7. Jackson
8. Leech

I think the guys 7-12 could all fight for minutes in our 7-8 man rotation. (Jackson, Leech, Zion, Lewis, Grill, Anderson.)

I just give Leech and Jackson the slight edge right now due to their scoring ability. I feel like that’s something we need. (Obviously)
 
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I mean I never disagreed. Haliburton (at least last year) utilized his length in passing lanes but not on the boards. Hes rail thin. Bolton and Nixon are both 6'2" at best I dont see them being plus rebounders from the 2-3 spots. One of the three of those guys needs to become an absolute bulldog on the boards if you want to play that small in the backcourt that's all I am saying. Maybe Nixon is that guy.

Well one thing we know for sure is Lewis is not that bulldog unless things drastically change for this off season
 
I mean I never disagreed. Haliburton (at least last year) utilized his length in passing lanes but not on the boards. Hes rail thin. Bolton and Nixon are both 6'2" at best I dont see them being plus rebounders from the 2-3 spots. One of the three of those guys needs to become an absolute bulldog on the boards if you want to play that small in the backcourt that's all I am saying. Maybe Nixon is that guy.
You’ve yet to prove it’s tangibly smaller, yet alone that Bolton being 6’2” rather than 6’4” has a significant impact on rebounding. It may be missing guys that are good at rebounding, but that’s a different contention than it’s “that” small of backcourt.

It’s not too small compared to most college basketball backcourts or our previous successful lineups. Our rebounding will improve more from having next to the Haliburton two 6’2” guards that can defend and stay in front of guys rather than simply one of those guys being a couple inches taller.

I’d buy that the backcourt may not be superior enough at rebounding to offset rebounding deficiencies elsewhere. We don’t lack size in the backcourt as much as we lack an Ejim or Mark Vital. The small-ball four position isn’t obvious on this roster, but if we’re still going small despite the three returning post options, it’s likely we’re rebounding sufficiently enough to have success. Like nearly all of the past 8 years.
 
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Since when did this thread turn into a free for all on how bad Lewis sucks and the rotation next year?

Since a majority of us don't go to these games it would be nice to get some info on how the guys actually look this summer.
 
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I mean that's just a really bad example because K States frontcourt is exactly what I proposed for Iowa State to pair with 2 smallish guards.

Xavier Sneed at the 3. 6'5" - 6'6" filled out body that can battle for boards and hit 3s. There is Terrence Lewis.

Dean Wade at the 4 is very similar to Mike Jacobsen.

Mawien at the 5 has similar length as Conditt.

Diarra also was probably a better player than Sneed last year but Sneed still started. Sometimes size/matchups/preferred style of play doesnt always allow you to start your best 5.

*Also, Barry Brown was a damn bulldog wasnt afraid of sticking his nose in there. Nixon and Bolton both may be from the same cut I just dont know yet.


What Sneed and Lewis have in common.
1) They play basketball
2) They are human

I'm not a Lewis hater, certainly think he has a role... but a "filled out body that can battle for boards and hit 3s"?
 
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Last year we watched Haliburton in the summer league and wondered if *maybe* he could contribute as a freshman. We know how that turned out. Tre seems to be that guy this year.

I'd also argue that Leech could be that guy. Skinny like Haliburton was and seems to he able to score from anywhere...and he's not even 100% healthy yet.
 
What Sneed and Lewis have in common.
1) They play basketball
2) They are human

I'm not a Lewis hater, certainly think he has a role... but a "filled out body that can battle for boards and hit 3s"?

Lol he was a consensus 4 star recruit that has a prototypical body for a small forward with a smooth jumper. Not certain where we are disagreeing here. Dude has looked lost on defense and lazy on the court I fully agree. Merely saying he is an upperclassmen now and Prohm didnt tell him to look for a scholarship elsewhere. He was behind some pretty good players last year as well. Hope the light fully turns on for him.
 
Lol he was a consensus 4 star recruit that has a prototypical body for a small forward with a smooth jumper. Not certain where we are disagreeing here. Dude has looked lost on defense and lazy on the court I fully agree. Merely saying he is an upperclassmen now and Prohm didnt tell him to look for a scholarship elsewhere. He was behind some pretty good players last year as well. Hope the light fully turns on for him.
If Lewis starts, something will seriously have changed for him. He's had some individual offensive skills all along, and, he does look physically stronger now. But, multiple lights need to turn on for him in games - he has been a huge liability on D. If he could somehow get that down, I could see him in the rotation. But, to suggest he's going to start at this point is a major leap.

I understand the concern about rebounding. I'm wondering if Conditt and Jacobson start so we have more size. Or, maybe Griffin will get in the mix more too. Will be fun to see how this plays out. Lots of talented players on the team.
 
We had THT who was a 3 guard playing the 4 and Jacobsen who is a 4 playing the 5. We aren't going to become a better rebounding team by rolling out an even smaller roster. We just aren't.
Rebounding has more to do with a mindset that you are going to get that mother ******* ball and nobody else will. If you decide that you will be a very effective rebounder. Look what Uncle Jake Anderson did as the smallest player on the floor for Iowa State when he had his lone season in Ames.
 
Since when did this thread turn into a free for all on how bad Lewis sucks and the rotation next year?

Since a majority of us don't go to these games it would be nice to get some info on how the guys actually look this summer.
It started the 1st night of the league.
 
I mean that's just a really bad example because K States frontcourt is exactly what I proposed for Iowa State to pair with 2 smallish guards.

Xavier Sneed at the 3. 6'5" - 6'6" filled out body that can battle for boards and hit 3s. There is Terrence Lewis.

Dean Wade at the 4 is very similar to Mike Jacobsen.

Mawien at the 5 has similar length as Conditt.

Diarra also was probably a better player than Sneed last year but Sneed still started. Sometimes size/matchups/preferred style of play doesnt always allow you to start your best 5.

*Also, Barry Brown was a damn bulldog wasnt afraid of sticking his nose in there. Nixon and Bolton both may be from the same cut I just dont know yet.
From what I've heard, Nixon is a gritty type player who isn't afraid to do whatever it takes to help the team. That usually means he defends really well, is always on the floor for loose balls, and isn't afraid to put a body on someone when boxing out. I'm not exactly sure how well Rasir Bolton will be at rebounding, but looking at even his CCL film, he's pretty explosive and as long as he boxes out well, he should do alright. Although Terrence Lewis hasn't gotten that much playing time, when he did play it didn't seem like he was that good of a rebounder. That could be because he seemed to always not be in the right rotation / position on defense. Either way, I don't think going 6'2", 6'2", 6'5" at the guard position is as big of a deal as you're making it to be.
 

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