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BCClone said:
Achilles injury, was jumping up and down and when he took off you could see something happen. He is they guy who covered Kelce. Kelce did nothing with him in but then took off when he went out.
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Right when it happened I immediately thought achilles, calf, or maybe lower hammy.

Reminds me of those baseball injuries you hear about. Like when John Smoltz burned himself as he tried ironing his shirt while wearing it. There have actually been quite a few celebratory injuries but can't think of any offhand.
 
ZRF said:
There's that and the fact his plays often take time. All of that motion and misdirection requires a certain amount of time to make that work. If those are 3 second plays but the QB has 1-2 that's a problem. That happened frequently last night.
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SF has the TE chip the end on the right side. KC was blitzing at the same spot so the tackle had to take one. I’m not positive but they might have been running a mini twist with the DB and end coming up. Why Jones wasn’t touched coming through. This is where I wish the TV would have shown more than the box, were there receivers coming into that area? Were the WRs getting jammed or held so they couldn’t break clear? Would have told more if they showed more than just line play.
 
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ZRF said:
Right when it happened I immediately thought achilles, calf, or maybe lower hammy.

Reminds me of those baseball injuries you hear about. Like when John Smoltz burned himself as he tried ironing his shirt while wearing it. There have actually been quite a few celebratory injuries but can't think of any offhand.
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Aaron Rodgers tore his and there really wasn’t any contact. I think the Vikes QB tore his but don’t know the situation.
 
BCClone said:
Achilles injury, was jumping up and down and when he took off you could see something happen. He is they guy who covered Kelce. Kelce did nothing with him in but then took off when he went out.
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He had been struggling with the Achillies the past couple of weeks, you can see him bouncing and stretching it when he is getting ready to come on the field, and then it just snapped as he was jogging out. Outside of sitting out the rest of the game it was going to happen sooner or later.
 
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BCClone said:
SF has the TE chip the end on the right side. KC was blitzing at the same spot so the tackle had to take one. I’m not positive but they might have been running a mini twist with the DB and end coming up. Why Jones wasn’t touched coming through. This is where I wish the TV would have shown more than the box, were there receivers coming into that area? Were the WRs getting jammed or held so they couldn’t break clear? Would have told more if they showed more than just line play.
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The Chiefs players deserve a lot of credit as blitzing isn't always an automatic for getting guys through. On that note, KC has a lot of guys that are great blitzers/effective when used in those packages.

SF was trying to chip but some of that pressure was also coming from the middle, where chipping is obviously a non factor. As such Shanny needed to either change his protection or change the plays, which he seemingly didn't do. Like you said, it would be nice to get some better angles. I suspect McDuffie and Sneed were blanketing the outside which is why, at some point, you maybe use some of that size and athleticism near the sideline where those throws are somewhat safer.

If Shanahan wants to win the big one he needs to figure this out. If (relative) simpletons like us saw this I guarantee every defensive coordinator saw it as well.
 
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How does Mahomes team ownership with his contract work? (I was thinking this was in it, please correct if I’m wrong). Did he get X percent of the team upfront? Or is it so much per year? If it’s so much per year, do they re value the team each year and that counts against the cap?
 
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The Chiefs players deserve a lot of credit as blitzing isn't always an automatic for getting guys through. On that note, KC has a lot of guys that are great blitzers/effective when used in those packages.

SF was trying to chip but some of that pressure was also coming from the middle, where chipping is obviously a non factor. As such Shanny needed to either change his protection or change the plays, which he seemingly didn't do. Like you said, it would be nice to get some better angles. I suspect McDuffie and Sneed were blanketing the outside which is why, at some point, you maybe use some of that size and athleticism near the sideline where those throws are somewhat safer.

If Shanahan wants to win the big one he needs to figure this out. If (relative) simpletons like us saw this I guarantee every defensive coordinator saw it as well.
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It should also improve as Brock gains more experience. He can check out a little more. SF has some cap issues they have to deal with, hope the stars are wanting a ring more than money, otherwise last year was probably their best team and then just a decline. I don’t think they were as good this year as last.
 
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BCClone said:
It should also improve as Brock gains more experience. He can check out a little more. SF has some cap issues they have to deal with, hope the stars are wanting a ring more than money, otherwise last year was probably their best team and then just a decline. I don’t think they were as good this year as last.
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SF has some cap issues they have to deal with part....

i dont know anything about this, but would love to see/hear what plays out here
They have a QB they are paying Dollar store prices for.

in any normal situation, The Superbowl QB would be getting 10-50M a year.

There are a couple players making a ton of money with the 9ers, I would be ok to see traded to free up room.
 
BCClone said:
How does Mahomes team ownership with his contract work? (I was thinking this was in it, please correct if I’m wrong). Did he get X percent of the team upfront? Or is it so much per year? If it’s so much per year, do they re value the team each year and that counts against the cap?
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Mahomes has team ownership with the KC Royals, not the Chiefs.

Pretty sure active players receiving ownership is prohibited as it could subvert the salary cap.
 
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This is absolutely astounding.

While I like many Niners players, and love that he drafted and trusted Purdy, I am not a Shanahan fan. Any of them.

Niners coach Kyle Shanahan said he and his analytics staff discussed overtime possibilities before the game, but Armstead and fullback Kyle Juszczyk both said that overtime strategy was not discussed with 49ers players leading up to the Super Bowl.

San Fran Unaware of Overtime Rules
 
The MVP was the Chiefs play caller. Mahomes was a game manager all game. He didn't make any plays off script and took what the plays provided him. And when you're calling plays that good you don't need to be anything else. And that's a good thing! If you can win without needing the QB to be elite playmaker everything else is easier.

The irony is if the script was flipped people would still be questioning Brock even though he probably made more off script plays than Mahomes last night.
 
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joefrog said:
This is absolutely astounding.

While I like many Niners players, and love that he drafted and trusted Purdy, I am not a Shanahan fan. Any of them.

Niners coach Kyle Shanahan said he and his analytics staff discussed overtime possibilities before the game, but Armstead and fullback Kyle Juszczyk both said that overtime strategy was not discussed with 49ers players leading up to the Super Bowl.

San Fran Unaware of Overtime Rules
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On one hand it's kind of weird, but on the other hand I'm not sure it matters as long as the players are informed before it begins (which sounds like they might not have been).

Probably the biggest issue with is it makes the players question the competency of the coaching staff because of it. The Chiefs went over it and as such they feel like they are prepared (even if it really doesn't matter as the strategy can change/be dictated on the field at the time it happens). Probably the "feeling" of being prepared is more important than the knowledge in and of itself. On that note that's a pretty egregious error by Shanahan.
 
ZRF said:
On one hand it's kind of weird, but on the other hand I'm not sure it matters as long as the players are informed before it begins (which sounds like they might not have been).

Probably the biggest issue with is it makes the players question the competency of the coaching staff because of it. The Chiefs went over it and as such they feel like they are prepared (even if it really doesn't matter as the strategy can change/be dictated on the field at the time it happens). Probably the "feeling" of being prepared is more important than the knowledge in and of itself. On that note that's a pretty egregious error by Shanahan.
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Do you think KC went over it so much because wasnt Reid HC in Philly when Donovan said he didn’t know the rules for OT when they lost an OT game?
 
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BCClone said:
It should also improve as Brock gains more experience. He can check out a little more. SF has some cap issues they have to deal with, hope the stars are wanting a ring more than money, otherwise last year was probably their best team and then just a decline. I don’t think they were as good this year as last.
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They were most definitely better the year prior on D.
 
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BCClone said:
Do you think KC went over it so much because wasnt Reid HC in Philly when Donovan said he didn’t know the rules for OT when they lost an OT game?
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That's possible. Assuming the Niners make the POs again under Shanahan I doubt it will be an omission this team. At worst it's insignificant, at best it makes a noticeable impact in team's confidence in your preparation, while at the very least it helps the publics perception of your confidence.

To be honest I didn't know the PO rules either and had to look it up. When you are a Bears fan first I guess you don't worry about such things.
 
ZRF said:
That's possible. Assuming the Niners make the POs again under Shanahan I doubt it will be an omission this team. At worst it's insignificant, at best it makes a noticeable impact in team's confidence in your preparation, while at the very least it helps the publics perception of your confidence.

To be honest I didn't know the PO rules either and had to look it up. When you are a Bears fan first I guess you don't worry about such things.
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I just figured they were similar to the regular season. It’s dumb to me to have totally different rules for playoffs than regular season.
 
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BCClone said:
I just figured they were similar to the regular season. It’s dumb to me to have totally different rules for playoffs than regular season.
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Right? I don't get the rule change. I don't like a lot of them as it stands for consistency issues. Like having to maintain possession on a catch "through the act of going to the ground" is stupid to me. It's contradictory to the longstanding rule that the ground "can't cause a fumble". So wait, the ground can cause an otherwise well-possessed ball NOT to be a catch, yet can't cause a fumble when a runner hits the ground? Have the ground in play or have it not in play (I don't care what they choose). Kind of the same thing here (change the rules for the regular season to match these or keep the POs consistent with current regular season rules).
 
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