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***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***

isucy86 said:
The first test will be ESPN's ability to launch the ACC linear Network in 2019. Followed by the Big10 TV negotiations, which may include scenarios with increased TV rights value if UT, OU, etc would be added.
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That deal is up for renewal in 2023, but the Big 12 GOR will still run through 2025. That Big 10 deal is going to be multi-year and worth BILLIONS of dollars. Would TV partners really be up for renegotiating new TV contracts 2 years later in order to add 2 (or more) Big 12 schools? The language would also be spelled out for any potential expansion candidates on what would happen if they were to join the Big 10 (such as, unequal distribution until so many years in the league) - would that really sit well in Austin?

Best case scenario is still the same - demand an extension on the current GOR and just stay with it until it expires.
 
Okay I am going to summarize my understanding of random Gopher fan with an OU Contact twitter account, let me know what I am missing.

Not sure if in 24 months or over the next 24 months negotiations will begin between, schools not named KU, OU, and UT to get a new GOR, P5 status and small bump in TV contracts through 2035, congruent to that, those school will then vote to dissolve the current GOR so that KU, OU, and UT can begin talks with other conferences.

I also infer that more than just those three will attempt to get into the other P5 conferences. These schools that remain which will be less than 7 of the current B12 will then add teams to round out the new B12 and will keep P5 status through 2035.

Couple of things come to mind. This isn't a bad solution for ISU. On the flip side why in the hell is/are a network(s) going to pay for the remaining schools plus whatever is added, the same as the conference with OU and UT? In my mind if this is what they are thinking there is a plan for sometime around 2035 to further dissolve conferences, and only the big boys will play big boy football. Otherwise, why wouldn't OU and UT just stay in the B12. If the "new B12" is worth a little more without them, then you would think it would be worth a hell of a lot more with them.

Once again please be reminded that this is a random Gopher fan with a OU contact twitter account.
 
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Looking through this Flug guy's tweets, I'm thinking he belongs in the same category as MHVer, DudeofWV, & Tuxedo Yoda. They throw out expansion stuff every other week and hope something sticks.
 
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everyyard said:
Beginning of the end. New Big XII will not be P5 for long.
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My understanding is Big 12 teams will be making 43m each in the last year of GOR. Maybe more depending on what happens now. How much will Big 10 make per team?
 
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isu83 said:
I'm still not convinced Big 12 is in trouble. I get a little tired of espn and their back and forth ripping of Big 12. But they aren't the only channel. My understanding is Big 12 teams will be making 43m each in the last year of GOR. Maybe more depending on what happens now. How much will Big 10 make per team?
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Same song and even the same verse. ESPN isn't a partner to the Big 12, they are just an obligated party to a contract. The have other loves right now (and have for quite some time), and they have no desire to promote the Big 12. The same is pretty much true for FOX.

It's been mentioned before here, but it would really benefit the Big 12 to get some "new" money into this football TV rights game. Maybe Comcast/NBC, TBS/TNT...given their other sports ventures, they may not have the money or be interested. Can always hope I guess...
 
jbhtexas said:
Same song and even the same verse. ESPN isn't a partner to the Big 12, they are just an obligated party to a contract. The have other loves right now (and have for quite some time), and they have no desire to promote the Big 12. The same is pretty much true for FOX.

It's been mentioned before here, but it would really benefit the Big 12 to get some "new" money into this football TV rights game. Maybe Comcast/NBC, TBS/TNT...given their other sports ventures, they may not have the money or be interested. Can always hope I guess...
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I thought FOX would be a player for the Big 12, seeing as how without that conference they would only have PAC12 regular season football.
 
ElephantPie said:
Looking through this Flug guy's tweets, I'm thinking he belongs in the same category as MHVer, DudeofWV, & Tuxedo Yoda. They throw out expansion stuff every other week and hope something sticks.
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And that's how this rumor news works. Just like throwing wet napkins at the bar ceiling. It's just random. Nothing factual to it.
 
boone7247 said:
Okay I am going to summarize my understanding of random Gopher fan with an OU Contact twitter account, let me know what I am missing.

Not sure if in 24 months or over the next 24 months negotiations will begin between, schools not named KU, OU, and UT to get a new GOR, P5 status and small bump in TV contracts through 2035, congruent to that, those school will then vote to dissolve the current GOR so that KU, OU, and UT can begin talks with other conferences.

I also infer that more than just those three will attempt to get into the other P5 conferences. These schools that remain which will be less than 7 of the current B12 will then add teams to round out the new B12 and will keep P5 status through 2035.

Couple of things come to mind. This isn't a bad solution for ISU. On the flip side why in the hell is/are a network(s) going to pay for the remaining schools plus whatever is added, the same as the conference with OU and UT? In my mind if this is what they are thinking there is a plan for sometime around 2035 to further dissolve conferences, and only the big boys will play big boy football. Otherwise, why wouldn't OU and UT just stay in the B12. If the "new B12" is worth a little more without them, then you would think it would be worth a hell of a lot more with them.

Once again please be reminded that this is a random Gopher fan with a OU contact twitter account.
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That's crazy talk for a number of reasons.

And there isn't a chance in hell that the remaining 7 or whoever is left would simply add teams and be considered a P5 school. If Texas, OU and KU what's left of the Big 12 becomes the American Athletic Conference 2.0.
 
3GenClone said:
They are part owner of BTN, but the only regular season games that air on FS1, FS2, and Fox regional are Big 12 and Pac12. The only Big 10 game that airs on a Fox network outside of BTN is the Big 10 Championship which is on FOX.
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Currently that is correct but will be changing soon (next year???) when the new deal stars. Both Fox and ESPN are splitting the rights if I remember correctly.
 
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If the Big 12 dies in p5 essence ISUs only chance to stay p5 might be by not expanding.
 
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