Honestly, it would probably be in the league's best interest to give these new schools an easy division to prop them up prior to the next round of TV negotiations. Any immediate success may show them to be P5 worthy thus boosting the conference brand.
***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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Honestly, it would probably be in the league's best interest to give these new schools an easy division to prop them up prior to the next round of TV negotiations. Any immediate success may show them to be P5 worthy thus boosting the conference brand.
If Big 12 truly is entertaining pitches from 17 schools, it's a waste of teleconferencing time unless the plan is to expand to 16. Even then, it's probably a waste.
Putting aside P5-Poaching Dreams: Assuming expansion only to 12:
Cincinnati is Default Choice #1, given the West Virginia factor.
BYU should be Choice #2. The Sunday-scheduling aspect is easily addressed (since it mostly involves conference tournament formats). As for the Honor Code stuff: Institutions evolve.
Cincinnati is Default Choice #1, given the West Virginia factor.
BYU should be Choice #2. The Sunday-scheduling aspect is easily addressed (since it mostly involves conference tournament formats). As for the Honor Code stuff: Institutions evolve.
The lobbying for Houston in combination with the other issues involving BYU probably means BYU is left out. Plus BYU is on an island in Utah.
Unless it's a smokescreen to shield that they're also privately talking to Pac 12 schools, because then the more schools the better.. I'm not convinced that this is actually what's happening, because come on, this is the Big 12 we're talking about.
BYU being left out, I freaking hope so. The only two candidates on that list of blah is Cincinnati and Houston and I say Houston cause of Herman the guy can flat out coach and Houston has the potential in football to kick more butt cause of Tom. CSU I would like, but not happening unless CU is coming with AU, and ASU. Other than that holy **** batman.
A conference should not ever choose a school to join it because of a coach.
HoopsTournament
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WE WILL NEVER BE PART OF THE MAC EVER. Why do people keep posting crap like this?
How do you know? Do you have a contact in the big 10, PAC, 12, etc. Conference saying they will take ISU no matter what? Even if we don't pull our weight in athletics conference revenue?
I hope your right. But I wouldn't count it as a sure thing.
No it will be called the B12 but OU, Texas and KU will be gone and it will more closely resemble the current AAC than the current B12
Because some people believe every single little thing hok trolls tell them.
HoopsTournament
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Because leftover Big 12, MWC or AAC would take ISU in a heartbeat. That is why saying MAC is idiotic.
So, not the
So, not the MAC, just the financial equivalent of it?
Talking to 17-18 colleges is a joke. Looks like this is Plan C or D. Extension of GOR and/or renegotiating tv contracts to be on somewhat par with others likely has failed. Now it is just a money grab it appears.
Bowlsby: "Hey, you willing to take 5 million per year with increases of 1 million per year?"
Cincinnati: "No."
Bowlsby: "Next!"
Meanwhile 3 days later. Bowlsby: "I would like to present Temple and SMU as the newest members of the Big 12."
Bowlsby: "Hey, you willing to take 5 million per year with increases of 1 million per year?"
Cincinnati: "No."
Bowlsby: "Next!"
Meanwhile 3 days later. Bowlsby: "I would like to present Temple and SMU as the newest members of the Big 12."
You mean like the B1G West? Finally someone seeing the big picture.
Hey, folks: you know what's better than round robin scheduling? More bowl eligible teams. Go back to four non-conference games and suddenly you may have up to ten teams representing in the post season = more $$$.
Return of championship game = more $$$
Pro rata increase = more $$$
Never mind the 15 or so junk candidates out there; it's Houston & Cincinnati. Those two teams will not "dilute" the conference. While not the sexiest additions, they will be competitive immediately.
Worrying about ESPN & Fox in 2025 is a little short sighted considering how much the cable landscape could change by then. In the meantime, our conference should be thinking about online streaming options or partnering with different networks.
Huge pass on Houston! I don't care who they bring as long as it's not a another crappy Texas school.
HoopsTournament
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I have been on record saying that I a m very confident that ISU will end up in a power conference (most likely Big 12 or Pac 12 if Big 12 blows up). However, AAC and MWC are a step above MAC, CUSA and Sun Belt. They aren't a P5 conference but They are not MAC. So no it is not the financial equivalent.
I give it a 90% chance of ISU being in a power conference, a 10% chance being in a conference similar to AAC/MWC and no chance in hell of going to MAC, CUSA or Sun Belt. Any mention of it is stupid.