HoopsTournament
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The stability excuse for OU and UT is a load of crap. They are the ones that would be causing the instability. The other 8 teams are not looking to leave.
***Official Big 12 Expansion Thread '16***
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And maybe they aren't looking to leave either.
The Networks cause a bunch of the instability. They look at maximizing their income and then encourage wandering eyes. Up their bids to the Big 10 and SEC, then other teams like OU and UT wish for some of the big bucks.
The sad thing is that OU and Texas likely can't even see that the best thing for them is the Big 12 Conference. They will not be kings of any new conference they join. They will win less conference championships and play in less championship games. At this point though I really don't care if they leave or not. They are both toxic and have too much power in this conference.
Whoa there - has OU prevented the Big 12 having a full-blown conference network - you know, like Texas has? Love all these comments lumping OU and Texas together...as if they're equally to blame for the instability...
I don't believe UT is as valuable to other conferences as many fans and pundits think. The other P5s have their own monarchs they don't need Texas's Texas sized ego.
Am beginning to think that the Big 12 needs a network. I'd hate to kick Texas to the curb but what's one to do?
Would it be great for the Big 12 to have its own network? Sure mainly for televising Olympic sports and hoops. However, for football I think the contract with ESPN and FOX works.
At the current time it takes a major network to invest in creating a conference network. It appears that ESPN and FOX have decided they will only invest in 4 conferences and the Big12 is the odd man out. IMO unless CBS or NBC Sports are willing to set up a Big12 network, the conference will need to establish a network themselves.
I don't understand the criticism of Texas and the LHN. The basically won a $300M lottery when ESPN proposed the LHN. I am sure any of the other 9 Big 12 teams would have done the same. Texas is going to get paid $15-20M annually from 2021-2031, so for them to jump to the BIG10 or SEC, their TV rights deals will need to be much richer than what they could get within the Big12.
IMO allowing schools to keep their 3rd tier rights might be the best TV rights structure long-term, especially as streaming technology/interfaces advance.
I'm tired of watching Texas and OU whine and Boren should just be set out to pasture.
The doomsday scenario for us is a SWC 2.0 where Texas takes in the best of the rest if OU decides to jump ship in 2025. If you don't think that's possible, look at the LHN contract which runs trough 2032. Texas could decide to stay put and see where the landscape goes until 2032.
The doomsday scenario for us is a SWC 2.0 where Texas takes in the best of the rest if OU decides to jump ship in 2025. If you don't think that's possible, look at the LHN contract which runs trough 2032. Texas could decide to stay put and see where the landscape goes until 2032.
So it looks like no expansion for now. We have 8 more years on the GOR and Boren is 75. In 6 years when the new TV negotiations take place, Boren will be 81. He's making decisions he has no business making. Hopefully he's gone soon
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OU was in the same voting block with UT/aggy/NU that prevented the B12 from implementing a conference network back when Wieberg was commish. OU is now being a crybaby because they didn't get a LHN deal like UT did.
ISU's AAU status will help them more than other schools in the Big 12. ISU is a nice fit and would draw some regional attention playing schools close by.
Don't be naive. If we kicked Texas out, a B12 network wouldn't offset half of the loss from our tier 1 & 2 contracts (post-Texas).
Relevant in football or not they still carry the biggest stick.
Same can be said for Notre Dame and Michigan. Just because they haven't been in the top 10 year in and year out the last 10-15 years doesn't change their value overall. Anybody that can't see that doesn't know how the business of college football works.
