***Official Baylor postgame thread***

[Halincandenza]

I think there are too many guys on the team who aren’t consistent. When they are on they can beat almost anyone but when they aren’t they can lose to almost anyone. It’s still a team that can go to a sweet sixteen it will just depend on which team show last up that weekend.

 

[Cat Stevens]

Really tough game. Man just sucks. I let my young kids come to the game because they were really excited about it. Kind of the first ISU gut punch for them.

Break them in early. The scar tissue will aid them later in life

 

[heitclone]

I love Prohm but this is a textbook Steve loss, he just sticks to his guns regardless if its working or not. This team is loaded with talent but not being able adjust our lineups to counter what teams are doing against us lowers the ceiling for the tourney. We are a one trick pony, if we dont' have a mismatch with our 4th guard, we'll struggle.

 

[CyTwins]

General question, have they changed the TV production to mute the crowd noise. My wife and I were watching the game on TV and she commented to me, "I thought you said the crowd was loud at Hilton". I had to admit that at least through the TV broadcast, there was little to no crowd noise. I assumed they were filtering it out somehow, but cannot say for certain.

It was crazy loud in there

 

[cyfan92]

Jacobsen looked a little outmatched last night. Not athletic or big enough to counter the Baylor bigs. It would have been worth giving Conditt a shot I think.

Agree, Michael is a nice 4 in Big 12 play. He just can't hang with the athletes that play the 5. Look at his Nebraska numbers. He struggled just as bad. If he could get a decent 3 point shot, I'd love to see him play along-side another more Big 12 big

 

[WastedTalent]

I would have tried a variety of things. Haliburton had 1 rebound in 35 minutes. He has to do better than that. Same for Jacobson with only 2. So I would have probably tried Conditt for Jacobson at some point, or maybe just gone two bigs to get Jacobson off their center, and probably given Hali less time and given those minutes to Talley or THT. THT is hands down our best in-traffic rebounder and he only had 23 minutes. So I would have probably tried Conditt some, given THT and Talley (who is a good rebounder for a guard) some of Hali minutes.

I would have liked Conditt as well, but I think you'd have to play him with Jacobsen or Lard. Which may not have been a bad thing, it just takes away an offense weapon, but as we saw, no one was really firing anyway.

I think Prohm gets hesitant to sacrifice a guard, that can make something happen on offense, for a second big, because he's just waiting for someone to make a couple shots or get hot, but he doesn't know who it'll be. The closest he got was when he had Talley in there, but I'm not sure he's the toughness we need for rebounding.

 

[jbhtexas]

General question, have they changed the TV production to mute the crowd noise. My wife and I were watching the game on TV and she commented to me, "I thought you said the crowd was loud at Hilton". I had to admit that at least through the TV broadcast, there was little to no crowd noise. I assumed they were filtering it out somehow, but cannot say for certain.

It's an ESPN/ABC production thing. For whatever reason, they don't seem to want much crowd noise in their productions.

 

[Rural]

Jacobsen looked a little outmatched last night. Not athletic or big enough to counter the Baylor bigs. It would have been worth giving Conditt a shot I think.

It wasn't a little.

 

[Cat Stevens]

anyone who doesn't agree with you or finds fault in what you say is guilty of throwing a fit. fairly sure I've seen you point that finger at others.

i'm sure your family LOVES the fact that you're always right...even when you aren't.

No, you seem to not know the difference between alpha and leader.

That’s a you thing

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I would have liked Conditt as well, but I think you'd have to play him with Jacobsen or Lard. Which may not have been a bad thing, it just takes away an offense weapon, but as we saw, no one was really firing anyway.

I think Prohm gets hesitant to sacrifice a guard, that can make something happen on offense, for a second big, because he's just waiting for someone to make a couple shots or get hot, but he doesn't know who it'll be. The closest he got was when he had Talley in there, but I'm not sure he's the toughness we need for rebounding.

Solomon Young is very missed.

 

[NoCreativity]

Jerse is bad,

Lol, cmon guys, Im not THAT BAD!!! Im just competitive and want my team to win, the home losses are really what are grinding on my nerves since Prohm got here, I've been to games under Hoiberg and Prohm and it just isnt the same atmosphere anymore.

The players always seemed to get up for any home game, now it seems like they are just going through the motions because they have it in their heads all they need to do is show up and win.

 

[Halincandenza]

It is probably time we stop acting like we could win out. That isn’t happening. Same thing with the predictions to lose out.

I am not saying they will I am saying this there is no way to know how they will finish, what teams they will beat and lose to because they have the guys to win every game but also could lose several more. I can't predict what this team will do one game to the next these days.

 

[cycloneML]

Keep it here.

Finesse vs relentless rebounding. Not a good matchup for us, but the home thing this year has to be mental. No idea why else we’d be so deadly on the road and so not at Hilton of all places.

the old people in the good seats are either asleep or dead. major issue for the AD to figure out.

 

[ISUChippewa]

Lol, cmon guys, Im not THAT BAD!!! Im just competitive and want my team to win, the home losses are really what are grinding on my nerves since Prohm got here, I've been to games under Hoiberg and Prohm and it just isnt the same atmosphere anymore.

The players always seemed to get up for any home game, now it seems like they are just going through the motions because they have it in their heads all they need to do is show up and win.

But we were certainly up for curb stomping #5 Kansas when they came up to Hilton this season.

The home losses are certainly frustrating, no doubt. We've all seen just how good this team can be. I'm wondering if we peaked too soon.

 

[Cyclonepride]

the old people in the good seats are either asleep or dead. major issue for the AD to figure out.

Are you suggesting that those old ******* should have been boxing out?

 

[Gossamer]

No, you seem to not know the difference between alpha and leader.

That’s a you thing

i know this...based on everything I've ever read from you, you are neither.

 

[NoCreativity]

But we were certainly up for curb stomping #5 Kansas when they came up to Hilton this season.

The home losses are certainly frustrating, no doubt. We've all seen just how good this team can be. I'm wondering if we peaked too soon.

Thats because they get up for Kansas, but then for some reason they think they can beat middle of the pack teams just by showing up. The Prohm era has been plagued by losing at home to average teams. I wouldnt even be that upset if we actually lost to top teams at home, thats to be expected, losing to NIT and 9 seed level teams in Hilton is inexcusable.

If it happened once or twice it woudlnt even be that bad, but its happened time and time again the last 4 years.

 

[CyTwins]

Lol, cmon guys, Im not THAT BAD!!!

 

[Tornado man]

Of course they are. They would be fine today. They would have been fine any of the last 3 years.

This is not so much about basketball for a lot of folks. Hasn’t been since he was hired. I remember register articles about his faith, and how people didn’t like that. That he held players accountable bothers people too.

What BS. Players can play phantom defense, don't feel the need to box out, etc. and yet stay on the court. TCU and Baylor simply played twice as hard as we did, and you claim Prohm "holds players accountable." Good god.

 

[isubb79]

You really think we didn’t send people to the boards? Laughable, but here you go.

We seemed like we were moving in clay tonight, wonder if there was some illness on the team

Other than a couple of loose ball scrambles, nick was lifeless tonight. Lindell never let the game come to him. He hit that wide open 3 on the out of bounds play (imagine that), but forced everything else. Jacobson was terrible getting his body into people, and was worse defending the pick and roll. Talen seemed gassed to me, but he let his shooting effect the rest of his game. His hands weren’t nearly as active as they have been, and he wasn’t penetrating and making plays. Seemed more physical than mental.

Lard was terrible his first run, went out and regrouped, and was much better after. Our guards inability to stay in front of their man drew him off his guy, which made a bad rebounding night worse. Marial played his ass off, missed open shots, especially when we needed them at the end. Tyrese made some shots, but got lost on the defensive end a lot, like everyone else.

The hard hedge was good to start the second half. But prohm needed to extend the defense, maybe a little half and three quarter court press to get the guys moving and speed them up, turn them over. A real mistake on his part. They’d have still scored, but we needed energy tonight. The building sounded dead, a

The whole game was just blah. Spurts of energy, but really allowed Baylor to dictate. And pulling the ball out of the net everytime because you can’t get a board, means you can’t run.

Tough night. Disappointed in the way we played. Have to come back Saturday in Ft Worth

Thank you for your basketball analysis (I mean that sincerely). I went to bed prior to you sending this last night or would have responded then. My apologies for name calling last night as well.

Pretty much agree with most of what you typed. My point on sending more people to the defense glass was that we were still leaking out at least 2 guys most of the time when Baylor took a shot. I think we maybe should have committed all of our players to defensive rebounding.
To me there was one series of plays that points out the difference in coaching between Drew and Prohm. It was in the first half, Jacobsen and Babb had just trapped Mason in front of our bench and he was forced to call time out with 2 seconds left on the shot clock. Baylor took the ball out of bounds on the side about where Prohm normally stands. They had Mason in the corner on that side and their big just outside of the land on the baseline on the same side . The other two players were up by the top of the key. Mason breaks to the lane along the baseline and it appears their big is there to screen him open. Instead Mason breaks off of the screen back to the corner he came from. Babb and Jacobsen both scramble to cover Mason. The guy taking the ball out of bounds lobs the ball over to Jacobsen to their big now on the opposite side of the lane for a two foot bunny with a second to go on the shot clock. I thought it was brilliant on Drew's part to create the action that made it look like Mason was the primary target (and maybe he was) on the near side while setting up the other players above the key so there was not back side help. The play had to be diagramed during the timeout and it was executed very well. I just don't see Prohm coming up with those kinds of things on the fly.