Official Apology Thread: Has the rot set in?

I agree w this. The on thing that really seems confusing is how the o-line sucked so bad then have radically improved in this stretch. It doesn't compute for me.

I'm not a football wonk, but even when they were playing poorly, Bruns kept saying on his podcast that he liked the new techniques the OL was using under Clanton.

Mix of finally getting the technique down and the right combination of guys in there?
 
To be fair to fans, we were just coming off a rivalry loss and a loss to a MAC team we beat by 30+ a year ago…all after a 4-8 season. Fans were right to be pissed.

But most rational people said “let’s see if Campbell can right the ship”. And he did.

So to come here and dunk on fans is as silly as those fans who wanted Campbell fired after 3 games this season.
 
I think the fans who accept mediocrity without question owe everyone an apology. I’m happy to be 5-3, but imagine the conversation we’d be having if we were 7-1 (or even 8-0).

It shouldn’t take a loss to a MAC team to learn offensive play calling or clock management at this point in the program. And the Baylor game showed us we probably haven’t even mastered the latter.
 
I'm not a football wonk, but even when they were playing poorly, Bruns kept saying on his podcast that he liked the new techniques the OL was using under Clanton.

Mix of finally getting the technique down and the right combination of guys in there?
Sanders and Norton also seem to be more patient and are letting things set up a bit, earlier in the year they went 100mph downhill, now they're better at picking their spots. The RB's and OL both seem to be coming together. Norton in particular ran really smart yesterday.
 
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And you had determined that Campbell should be fired. His time at Iowa State was over.

You were so wrong. It is fair to criticize your judgement. You would have made the single worst decision in Iowa State Football History by firing Campbell.

You’ve been pretty miserable throughout these threads. Maybe enjoy the win a bit more and care a little less how fans acted when we had lost 10 of our last 14 games.
 
To be fair to fans, we were just coming off a rivalry loss and a loss to a MAC team we beat by 30+ a year ago…all after a 4-8 season. Fans were right to be pissed.

But most rational people said “let’s see if Campbell can right the ship”. And he did.

So to come here and dunk on fans is as silly as those fans who wanted Campbell fired after 3 games this season.

Those fans need to be reminded of their idiocy. They want us to forget their idiocy. They wanted Campbell fired. The rot had set In.
 
To be fair to fans, we were just coming off a rivalry loss and a loss to a MAC team we beat by 30+ a year ago…all after a 4-8 season. Fans were right to be pissed.

But most rational people said “let’s see if Campbell can right the ship”. And he did.

So to come here and dunk on fans is as silly as those fans who wanted Campbell fired after 3 games this season.

Especially when a lot of people are incredibly dishonest about where the criticism was coming from. Anyone in here saying "people were getting down on campbell after 1 bad game" is full of ****. 2021 was a massive underperformance given the talent and 2022 was terrible. Those first few games of the year looked identical to last year(and in the case of the iowa game, like most of the other times we've played Iowa under campbell), so people were rightly concerned. And note, it wasn't until a day or two later that it came out that the 'food poisoning' was actually norovirus and a lot worse and more widespread than most people knew at the time.

Very thankful things have changed for the better over the last 5 games. Hope we can pick up one more to get a winning conference record and a bowl game.
 
With regard to this matter, I will paraphrase Eisenhower:

The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, Stormin and the Play Sith and the Frog, are in the gutters.
You might be right. I'm treading the path between extremes at the moment. Neither the sunshine pumping blind faith Stormins of the world nor the jerking off in their Star Wars pajamas Gunners of the world are likely to be correct.

And the frog hates CMC so much it is laughable. I wonder if CMC in the past killed his dog, despoiled his girlfriend, despoiled his dog, or killed his girlfriend, or maybe all of the above?
 
With regard to this matter, I will paraphrase Eisenhower:

The middle of the road is all of the usable surface. The extremes, Stormin and the Play Sith and the Frog, are in the gutters.

Trusting Campbell. Are you saying that is an extreme position to take? Disagree. Trust Campbell. That is the lesson to be learned. Trust Jamie Pollard. Another lesson to learn.
 
Especially when a lot of people are incredibly dishonest about where the criticism was coming from. Anyone in here saying "people were getting down on campbell after 1 bad game" is full of ****. 2021 was a massive underperformance given the talent and 2022 was terrible. Those first few games of the year looked identical to last year(and in the case of the iowa game, like most of the other times we've played Iowa under campbell), so people were rightly concerned. And note, it wasn't until a day or two later that it came out that the 'food poisoning' was actually norovirus and a lot worse and more widespread than most people knew at the time.

Very thankful things have changed for the better over the last 5 games. Hope we can pick up one more to get a winning conference record and a bowl game.
Yeah people acting like it was unreasonable to even start to question if the program was regressing are being just as annoying as people that were wanting Campbell fired after 3 games this year. I am very glad my doubt was wrong because I really like Campbell.
 
I am enjoying the win. Also enjoying pointing out how wrong the idiots were. Evidently those whining fans can not take criticism

Those fans need to be reminded of their idiocy. They want us to forget their idiocy. They wanted Campbell fired. The rot had set In.
Imagine living like this.

Reminder: Campbell didn't pull his head out of his ass until the heat was turned up.

That's an absolute fact.

He, apparently, was going to be just fine running CampbellBall again this year.

I'm thrilled that he got his act together and got back to coaching like he did in 2018.
 
Especially when a lot of people are incredibly dishonest about where the criticism was coming from. Anyone in here saying "people were getting down on campbell after 1 bad game" is full of ****. 2021 was a massive underperformance given the talent and 2022 was terrible. Those first few games of the year looked identical to last year(and in the case of the iowa game, like most of the other times we've played Iowa under campbell), so people were rightly concerned. And note, it wasn't until a day or two later that it came out that the 'food poisoning' was actually norovirus and a lot worse and more widespread than most people knew at the time.

Very thankful things have changed for the better over the last 5 games. Hope we can pick up one more to get a winning conference record and a bowl game.
Your post would make sense if you all weren't advocating for firing him. You were team @gunnererclone and are tarnished with his bs. Concern is legit. Calling it rot and seeking termination is/was wrong headed.
 
Your post would make sense if you all weren't advocating for firing him. You were team @gunnererclone and are tarnished with his bs. Concern is legit. Calling it rot and seeking termination is/was wrong headed.
@alarson dumbing a post. ******* asshat.
 
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Fo a-hole Larson.

You claim I was demanding he be fired. That is a blatant lie. Here's my post I had in the 'rot' thread.
I'm not on the 'fire campbell' train yet by any means.

But those of you acting like the red flags are just because we're 1-1 are no less blind than someone wanting him fired today.

Watch enough programs over time and you'll see how much momentum plays a role. Attract players and staff on the vision of success, have success, parlay that into attracting players with visions of even greater success. Once the wheels come off of that and the trendline dips, that sell value disappears, and the program starts to enter into a spiral (sometimes a slow one, sometimes a fast one). Once you recognize that spiral has reached a point of no return, you have to move on or else you'll just be that much more in the hole for the next guy to dig out of.

For ISU, that upward trendline has all but disappeared. One could argue the *program* peaked in like 2018 for the alamo bowl season and the covid year and all its flukiness just hid that we really had plateaued as like a 7-6 program for the next few seasons (momentum stopped) before dropping down to 4-8 (momentum now headed the other way).

Campbell deserves a chance to right the ship of course, and I don't think the decision on firing him should be on the table after this season, but I think that turnaround has to happen by the end of next season (and hell, maybe we see signs of it this season, its early!).

I stand by it. There were real concerns. I said he deserved a chance to right the ship, and said that there was even a chance he'd do just that this season. I was right
 

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