Last night made Thuggy Bears teams look like candy asses-Got away with murder Fran F was all over the officials. Nope not a foul, not in position to call that because he can't see it. "That is not a foul on Rob Jones"
*** Official #6 IOWA STATE vs #2 Houston Game(Day) Thread ***
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We are not talking about the same play. I will look it up and post it when I have time this morning.
No matter how good we play in a loss, the day after one always is pretty blah. Can't wait to get the guys back into Hilton and take it all out on West Virginia and Oklahoma
This is really pretty simple. You said in your prior post that it's not that hard to just call obvious fouls.
A) It is hard. You call all the contact, and all the sudden you've called 75 fouls in a 3 hour long game. Refs dont want that, coaches don't want that, fans don't want that, leagues don't want that, tv companies don't want that, etc. It's just not feasible. So in a game like this, it is incredibly hard to determine what's worthy of a whistle and what's not.
B) You can't have your cake and eat it to. We get away with a lot of obvious fouls. I know some people here don't want to hear that, but we do. So if you want a game where all the "obvious fouls" are called, prepare for our team to be in massive foul trouble all night.
It's just a silly look to complain about physicality when it goes against you, but expect to be allowed to guard the way we guard on a nightly basis.
Playing a game like that and losing is far better than playing a game against mediocre opponent and winning. What an absolute dog fight. We didn't back down at all and we played with some of the best toughness I've seen us play with all year long. Our guys deserve this long break until Saturday and it'll be great for them. Then put away WVU early and get some of these guys rest again.
I'll preface this by saying Keshon Gilbert is my favorite player outside of Tamin.. There was a stretch there were we had numerous possessions to make this game extremely uncomfortable for them and Keshon missed 3 FTs, including the front end of a 1 and 1, and he also turned the ball over I think on consecutive possessions. I'm in no way blaming him for the loss, and the FTs were actually more important than the turnovers. He still ended up hitting two big threes later on but that little stretch of time could've cut the game to 2-3 points and maybe us taking a lead had we not turned it over.
Either way, incredible effort by our guys. The crazy thing is that we didn't play well on the road against arguably the best team in the nation and we still had a chance late in the game. That rarely ever happens and is a testament to our defense and toughness. Someone mentioned this a few pages back but look no further than Marquette @ UCONN this past Saturday where Marquette doesn't play well and UCONN beats em by almost 30.
I'll preface this by saying Keshon Gilbert is my favorite player outside of Tamin.. There was a stretch there were we had numerous possessions to make this game extremely uncomfortable for them and Keshon missed 3 FTs, including the front end of a 1 and 1, and he also turned the ball over I think on consecutive possessions. I'm in no way blaming him for the loss, and the FTs were actually more important than the turnovers. He still ended up hitting two big threes later on but that little stretch of time could've cut the game to 2-3 points and maybe us taking a lead had we not turned it over.
Either way, incredible effort by our guys. The crazy thing is that we didn't play well on the road against arguably the best team in the nation and we still had a chance late in the game. That rarely ever happens and is a testament to our defense and toughness. Someone mentioned this a few pages back but look no further than Marquette @ UCONN this past Saturday where Marquette doesn't play well and UCONN beats em by almost 30.
This is probably a massive oversimplification but it feels to me like the difference is they have Jamal Shead and we don't.
Every time ISU got the lead down to 5, it seemed like he was the answer.
He made shots down the stretch and then started driving to draw fouls, and made something like 11 of 12 free throws.
He was so good for them.
Every time ISU got the lead down to 5, it seemed like he was the answer.
He made shots down the stretch and then started driving to draw fouls, and made something like 11 of 12 free throws.
He was so good for them.
Yes also the experience of that situation in that arena. Is going to Bramlage seem intimidating now?
I'm glad that the next game is WVU at home and there's a little more rest because of the Monday game. A lot of guys looked sore towards the end of that game, Lipsey and BRE more than anybody. Hopefully they stay focused and can jump on WVU and some of the starters can get some well-deserved rest.
Keshon played great, but I felt like his turnover when we were down 5 and had the ball coming off two missed FTs by Houston was huge. We'd hit 2 threes in a row to cut it from 11 to 5 and we had momentum on our side. He made a really poor backdoor pass and they came down and scored. Felt like it took alot of wind out of our sails.
Despite the loss, really proud of our guys. Most teams would've lost by twenty or more with Houston. They're legit, Kelvin Sampson is legit for the way he works the refs. Probably better than Self honestly in that regard. And their guard, Shead was shooting balls in the Pacific Ocean. At one point he was 9-9 at the charity-stripe. Incredible.
I'm going to change my prediction on the game this weekend against the Mountaineers. I think we win, but don't think will cover. I also think the probability of us winning out is attainable.
I'm going to change my prediction on the game this weekend against the Mountaineers. I think we win, but don't think will cover. I also think the probability of us winning out is attainable.
Absolutely not, and what's awesome is I don't care where you stick this team, they're not going to be intimidated. We've played poorly on the road in one single game and that was against BYU where they played extremely well and hit a bunch of threes.
Taking a look at our conference losses : @ OU (who would be ranked but lost back to back games against BU & KU), @ #25 BYU, @ #11 Baylor, @ #2 Houston.
In all of those games outside of BYU, we were solid until the very end. This team is tough as nails and unless we have a severely off night, can go far come March.
Tamin Lipsey getting plowed over by a moving screen is an obvious foul. They didn't call it.
My point is clear and still stands.
I know, look at the play that led to the inbound. I may be wrong, but I haven't had time to look for it yet.
Shead plays the same way all game long, guy is a machine.
Sampson coached in the NBA, he knows in that league you just put it on your best players back in crunch time.
Does the same thing with Shead. Granted Houston does not have many games where there is a crunch time, but Shead is a great asset when you need it
This is the impatient piece I constantly bring up. It's a team thing at times.
Otz brought up valuing possessions in the post-game so it's not like it's not a priority. I think sometimes the group gets caught up in the frantic pace and gets out ahead of the skis a bit.
ISU had 16 turnovers last night which isn't just god awful considering who they were playing, but the timing of them coming off a run out from a rebound or steal was the issue.
I'd say Curtis Jones is perhaps the best at just dialing it down a gear or so in intense situations but I think he even had a couple of mishaps last night. A lot of that was Houston too and it's a thing that just happens.
The 'why is ISU just settling for jumpers?!' thing was not shocking but still weird last night. You think ISU wouldn't have loved a few open lanes to the hoop? Haha
In an NCAA tourney game if the calls are tight ISU will need to find a way to dial back their pressure but still defend well or they'll get into trouble pretty quickly.
Cheap Shots go hand in hand with Kelvin Samson. Get used to it.