***Official 2023 Transfer Thread***

IMO Miami showed that hitting 3's isn't necessary to scoring points. An offense where players can get dribble penetration and make a high % of those shots or get to the line can put points on the board.
Miami still has guards who can make 3s though. Miami had 5 guards who played significant minutes shooting over 35% from 3. The drives become significantly harder if you can't. Lipsey was pretty solid at attacking the bucket before people figured out he couldn't shoot the 3. Once that was no longer a threat he couldn't penetrate on the dribble because it's easier to blow by a guy when they're defending you close than feet away from you.
I think Sallis is athletic enough to get his shot in the paint without taking a tough shot. Even if a team drops off. As much as I like Holmes and Kalscheur, they had a tough time getting an easy shot in traffic.

In the Pitt game we were bad from 3 shooting 2-21. But we also shot 12-39 from 2. The Pitt game wasn't unique, in the games ISU struggled on offense, our guards struggled making 2's.

Your argument is probably it's tough to make 2's when a team packs the paint. I'd argue a tall guard with a solid handle can get his shots, even in traffic.

Lastly, I expect Lipsey to be a better offensive player next year. Ideally, Lipsey will hit mid-30's plus from 3. But he can pull defenders to him if he can hit a 12-15 foot jumper or develop a go to shot (Monte Morris like floater) in the paint.
I feel like we're noticing the same issue but on the opposite side of it. Pitt's gameplan was to take away the 2s and make us hit 3s. You can't run that gameplan against Gonzaga or Miami, who we talked about above, because they'll just say ok and hit 3s. The 2s weren't there for us because the 3s absolutely weren't and Pitt didn't feel the need to guard anyone other than Gabe. In turn that took away Osun and Tre, who can hit shots out of the post or inside because when nobody is guarding Lipsey, Jaz, or Holmes all that well, or leaving Jones wide open from 2. If we get 3 point shooters then next season Tre, Omaha, and Milan(I assume he has a post game) can play more 1 on 1 and win those battles instead of trying to win 1 v 2/3/4.

We shouldn't have to have our gameplan be hitting shots through 3 defenders next year. Even if someone can do it from time to time it's not going to be anywhere near as helpful as getting guys who can hit from 3.

I think the most likely thing to happen if we land Silas as one of our 2 likely takes at guard is that he gets the Lipsey treatment and can't actually go around anyone. If that happens he's either gonna have to force tough shots or pass out of it consistently. Right now we have 0 proven players who can make 3s at a college level on the team. If we're gonna use 3 spots on guards then maybe. But first we need better shooters.

For Lipsey, I hope so but he shot 20% from 3 this year. That going up to about 33-35% would be a wild improvement. I'm not gonna expect that because that would be over the top insane.
 
Miami still has guards who can make 3s though. Miami had 5 guards who played significant minutes shooting over 35% from 3. The drives become significantly harder if you can't. Lipsey was pretty solid at attacking the bucket before people figured out he couldn't shoot the 3. Once that was no longer a threat he couldn't penetrate on the dribble because it's easier to blow by a guy when they're defending you close than feet away from you.

I feel like we're noticing the same issue but on the opposite side of it. Pitt's gameplan was to take away the 2s and make us hit 3s. You can't run that gameplan against Gonzaga or Miami, who we talked about above, because they'll just say ok and hit 3s. The 2s weren't there for us because the 3s absolutely weren't and Pitt didn't feel the need to guard anyone other than Gabe. In turn that took away Osun and Tre, who can hit shots out of the post or inside because when nobody is guarding Lipsey, Jaz, or Holmes all that well, or leaving Jones wide open from 2. If we get 3 point shooters then next season Tre, Omaha, and Milan(I assume he has a post game) can play more 1 on 1 and win those battles instead of trying to win 1 v 2/3/4.

We shouldn't have to have our gameplan be hitting shots through 3 defenders next year. Even if someone can do it from time to time it's not going to be anywhere near as helpful as getting guys who can hit from 3.

I think the most likely thing to happen if we land Silas as one of our 2 likely takes at guard is that he gets the Lipsey treatment and can't actually go around anyone. If that happens he's either gonna have to force tough shots or pass out of it consistently. Right now we have 0 proven players who can make 3s at a college level on the team. If we're gonna use 3 spots on guards then maybe. But first we need better shooters.

For Lipsey, I hope so but he shot 20% from 3 this year. That going up to about 33-35% would be a wild improvement. I'm not gonna expect that because that would be over the top insane.
I am not worried about the "Pitt Approach" because:
  • Lipsey will have the confidence to attack the paint if his defender drops off. He doesn't need to get to the rim, just be an eager shooter in the 12-15 ft range.
  • We didn't have a Biliew on this year's roster. At 6'8" with guard skills, he should be able to get shots in traffic.
  • We don't know what we have in Williams. But I'm going to assume over 18 months he has improved his jump shot.
  • TJ and staff know that teams will pack the paint until we prove we have an effective counter to that defensive approach. So they have a summer to game plan.
  • TJ has recruited athletes. Hopefully we will see a more uptempo style and get points off turnovers or fastbreak points.
 
But will he? (15 mpg)

If a player like Jones gets 17..............then yeah, 15 wouldn't be a stretch for Sallis.

There are only so many hours a day one can worship at the feet of the "culture" shrine.

Sooner or later there is going to have to be talent. With the recruiting class coming in I would say it's off to a good start. Adding a former 5* who is a defensive specialist that has been exposed to one of the best programs in the country doesn't seem like the worst idea.
 
I really wouldn’t give two thoughts about Sallis coming here. Creighton or maybe even Nebraska makes too much sense.
 
If a player like Jones gets 17..............then yeah, 15 wouldn't be a stretch for Sallis.

There are only so many hours a day one can worship at the feet of the "culture" shrine.

Sooner or later there is going to have to be talent. With the recruiting class coming in I would say it's off to a good start. Adding a former 5* who is a defensive specialist that has been exposed to one of the best programs in the country doesn't seem like the worst idea.
I think he meant will Sallis come to Iowa St to be a 15mpg guy?
 
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But will he? (15 mpg)
Yes, if his HS credentials are deserving and he wasn't a good fit or didn't get the opportunities at Gonzaga. He played 15mpg at Gonzaga, so why not ISU.

Sallis had a 2 to 1 A/TO ratio and is 6'5" so he can play 1-3 spots. If he has P6 talent, I would expect him to be a 25+mpg guy. Especially if Biliew gets more minutes at 4 vs 3.
 
Unless Florida Atlantic has had a multi billion dollar NIL fund going the last two seasons..........I think we need to put to rest this excuse of poor little ol Iowa State.
It seems like you’re insinuating FAU built their team off stud transfers. FAU’s roster is mostly guys who have been there since straight out of HS, plus a couple transfers who barely played elsewhere.
 
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It seems like you’re insinuating FAU built their team off stud transfers. FAU’s roster is mostly guys who have been there since straight out of HS, plus a couple transfers who barely played elsewhere.
Yes but they won't be able to keep those guys without writing big checks. Those kids made a lot of money this month.
 
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Unless Florida Atlantic has had a multi billion dollar NIL fund going the last two seasons..........I think we need to put to rest this excuse of poor little ol Iowa State.
Really helps to have Purdue being an incompetent 1 seed losing in the 1st rd. The path is a lot easier in a tournament format
 
Yes but they won't be able to keep those guys without writing Duke big checks. Those kids made a lot of money this month.
That area of South Florida is one of the wealthiest in the entire country. Money won't be a problem to keep them.

The prestige of moving to a program like Duke though is enough for them to leave.
 
I think he meant will Sallis come to Iowa St to be a 15mpg guy?
Yes, that's what I meant. Sallis isn't transferring to be a 15 mpg back-up. On the other hand, he might look at the loss of Gabe, Holmes, and Grill and believe he can come here and start.
 
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