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A lot of it is also players on the IR list. It's hard to have a good defense when the starters are not playing.
I don't think linebacker is a very important position to team success. Get a cheap FA or draft someone in the 4th or later.
Everybody's got tons of injured guys. Hunter, Pierce, Vigil, Griffen and Dantzler. Hunter's played 7 games in two years, so whatever. Griffen has been a serviceable guy in the rotation, Pierce and Vigil have been solid, and Dantzler has been pretty bad. Packers are missing their best pass rusher and CB, and other guys at DT and LB.
It isn't this week, or the last few. It's the fact that over the entire season it's a bottom 5 defense paid like a top 10 defense. And maybe they would have some depth if they didn't decide to load the defense with a handful of big contracts.
This represents injury impact for each team this year before this week; Vikings are middle of the road in injury impact:
Dream scenario for me:
New GM
Kellen Moore as HC
Vic Fangio gets fired from Denver and comes over as DC
Trade Kirk to Pitt or another QB needy team for a 2nd day draft pick
Trade for Derek Carr from Oakland, extend him 2 years for ~$30M/year (currently under contract through 2022 season at $19.9M). Not all guaranteed of course
If Carr stinks, draft a qb in 2023.
Do whatever you have to in order to keep JJ happy. At this point, everyone except for rookies and Brian O'Neil are tradeable.
New GM
Kellen Moore as HC
Vic Fangio gets fired from Denver and comes over as DC
Trade Kirk to Pitt or another QB needy team for a 2nd day draft pick
Trade for Derek Carr from Oakland, extend him 2 years for ~$30M/year (currently under contract through 2022 season at $19.9M). Not all guaranteed of course
If Carr stinks, draft a qb in 2023.
Do whatever you have to in order to keep JJ happy. At this point, everyone except for rookies and Brian O'Neil are tradeable.
My top candidate for Vikings HC remains the Bills OC.
He was the OC that Saban brought in after getting pounded by Clemson in the 2016 season natty. Completely changed Saban and Alabama into their current offensive power as OC in 2017-18. Spent 2013-2017 in New England coaching TE's (Yes please).
His latest success is bringing Josh Allen from prospect to top 5 QB in the league. The Bills offense scores a bunch and loves to throw the ball. The Bills are #3 in the NFL in scoring, #5 in yards/game
If you can find a way to get to even league average play at center and right guard. Imagine what a pass happy offense could do with Jefferson, Theilen, Osborn, Irv Smith, Conklin, Kene and Cook.
Only Irv Smith isn't signed for 2+ years!!
This is a DANG GOOD JOB for an offensive minded coach.
On defense, you can extend Hunter and gain cap space, restructure both DT's for cap space, resrtucture and extend Kendricks, restructure Harrison Smith and cut both Barr and Pat P. I've seen estimates where that gives you $30M-$35M dollars to go rebuild the defensive secondary.
He was the OC that Saban brought in after getting pounded by Clemson in the 2016 season natty. Completely changed Saban and Alabama into their current offensive power as OC in 2017-18. Spent 2013-2017 in New England coaching TE's (Yes please).
His latest success is bringing Josh Allen from prospect to top 5 QB in the league. The Bills offense scores a bunch and loves to throw the ball. The Bills are #3 in the NFL in scoring, #5 in yards/game
If you can find a way to get to even league average play at center and right guard. Imagine what a pass happy offense could do with Jefferson, Theilen, Osborn, Irv Smith, Conklin, Kene and Cook.
Only Irv Smith isn't signed for 2+ years!!
This is a DANG GOOD JOB for an offensive minded coach.
On defense, you can extend Hunter and gain cap space, restructure both DT's for cap space, resrtucture and extend Kendricks, restructure Harrison Smith and cut both Barr and Pat P. I've seen estimates where that gives you $30M-$35M dollars to go rebuild the defensive secondary.
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Vikings are good to great at WR, RB, TE, Tackle, DE (with Hunter) and safety.
Biggest need for Minnesota in the 2022 offseason is right guard, center, #1 corner, DE and LB. In that order.
Vikings will likely as high as 8, I believe with a loss to Chicago or as high as 15 with a win..
My draft plan:
DE: Top 3 DE's will be gone leaving only Ojabo. If he is gone. I would trade back if you have to go DE in round 1.
G/C: 3 guard or center prospects that are in play. I like Ekwonu (would play LG sliding Clevland back to RG), Linderbaum, then Green
I DO NOT WANT TO DRAFT A CB unless Stingley Jr somehow falls without trading down in round #1.
Biggest need for Minnesota in the 2022 offseason is right guard, center, #1 corner, DE and LB. In that order.
Vikings will likely as high as 8, I believe with a loss to Chicago or as high as 15 with a win..
My draft plan:
DE: Top 3 DE's will be gone leaving only Ojabo. If he is gone. I would trade back if you have to go DE in round 1.
G/C: 3 guard or center prospects that are in play. I like Ekwonu (would play LG sliding Clevland back to RG), Linderbaum, then Green
I DO NOT WANT TO DRAFT A CB unless Stingley Jr somehow falls without trading down in round #1.
They probably would have traded his pick away for a higher 7th rounder, two practice squad guys and a bag of peanuts.
Welp probably gonna be 8-9 and yet again another year of mediocrity.
I've always said give me an A or give me an F and Vikes continually dwell in the C- to B- range.....at best its maybe a playoff win and at worst its not even a top 3 pick. Sigh.
I've always said give me an A or give me an F and Vikes continually dwell in the C- to B- range.....at best its maybe a playoff win and at worst its not even a top 3 pick. Sigh.
I wouldn't complain with any of the top 3 interior OL. If they draft Linderbaum and then spent for at least an NFL average right guard. They would be a top 5-7 offense next season with my preferred coaching choice of Brian Daboll.
Spend $8M a year on a good guard and spend the other $25M that they likely free up in cap magic on getting younger on D, especially corner
Thats the good dream?Dream scenario for me:
New GM
Kellen Moore as HC
Vic Fangio gets fired from Denver and comes over as DC
Trade Kirk to Pitt or another QB needy team for a 2nd day draft pick
Trade for Derek Carr from Oakland, extend him 2 years for ~$30M/year (currently under contract through 2022 season at $19.9M). Not all guaranteed of course
If Carr stinks, draft a qb in 2023.
Do whatever you have to in order to keep JJ happy. At this point, everyone except for rookies and Brian O'Neil are tradeable.
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