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***Official 2019-2020 Transfer Thread***

WhoISthis said:
Also around the draft. And summer grades may open a few, plus exemptions enticing people.

Unless this staff has totally been outed in coaching circles, we’ll land someone.
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I'd guess we're going to land two guys that will be immediately eligible for next year. The question becomes how quality of a player they are. I guess no matter who we get, we'll have to wait and see how they produce, but obviously grabbing someone that folks are excited about would help ease some of the discomfort and provide some excitement until the season starts.
 
isutrevman said:
Hits:

Ejim, Niang, Morris, Thomas, Naz

Misses: Godfrey, Mcknight, Railey, Sledge, Gibson, Okoro, Dorsey-Walker, Custer

I'm getting 5/13. Not as bad as I first though. Less than 0.500, better than 0.250.

Looking back at our recruiting classes, Prohm has been worse than I thought too. Probably more like 0.250. I still maintain that if you hit on about 1/2 of your high schools recruits, you are doing ok.
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I posted this summary on one of the other message boards last week. Fred's and Prohm's high school recruiting are very similar. If you discount Prohm's first year, which was basically just grab whomever you can, their numbers are identical, 5 of 13. Depending on how Jackson and Conditt progress, Prohm's percentage may get a boost.

Prohm's high school recruiting (players coming in as freshman) has been been pretty much hit or total miss, with only a couple of players in the middle. Here is the list, with star rating and where I would place them. Could have missed someone, so add or correct as needed.

2019-20
Grill - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but miss for ISU
Leech - 3 star - miss
Anderson - 3 star - miss
Jackson - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities

2018-19
Griffin - 4 star - miss
Conditt - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities
THT - 4 star - hit
Haliburton- 3 star - hit

2017-18
Wiggington - 4 star - hit
Lewis - 4 star - miss

2016-17
Lard - 4 star - hit, but had problem's
Young - 3 star - hit, in my view
Long - 4 star - miss

2015-16 CSP 1st freshman class
Carter - 3 star - miss
Ernst - ??? - miss

15 total players, 5 hits = 33% are/were impact players. So, percentages would suggest that at least one of the incoming freshman will be an impact player. Two would help immensely. It is a higher rated class than last year. Similar to the 2018-19 group, as far as ratings. JMO
 
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CY74 said:
I posted this summary on one of the other message boards last week. Fred's and Prohm's high school recruiting are very similar. If you discount Prohm's first year, which was basically just grab whomever you can, their numbers are identical, 5 of 13. Depending on how Jackson and Conditt progress, Prohm's percentage may get a boost.

Prohm's high school recruiting (players coming in as freshman) has been been pretty much hit or total miss, with only a couple of players in the middle. Here is the list, with star rating and where I would place them. Could have missed someone, so add or correct as needed.

2019-20
Grill - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but miss for ISU
Leech - 3 star - miss
Anderson - 3 star - miss
Jackson - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities

2018-19
Griffin - 4 star - miss
Conditt - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities
THT - 4 star - hit
Haliburton- 3 star - hit

2017-18
Wiggington - 4 star - hit
Lewis - 4 star - miss

2016-17
Lard - 4 star - hit, but had problem's
Young - 3 star - hit, in my view
Long - 4 star - miss

2015-16 CSP 1st freshman class
Carter - 3 star - miss
Ernst - ??? - miss

15 total players, 5 hits = 33% are/were impact players. So, percentages would suggest that at least one of the incoming freshman will be an impact player. Two would help immensely. It is a higher rated class than last year. Similar to the 2018-19 group, as far as ratings. JMO
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Still shocked that Griffin and J. Long were able to able to fool scouts into ranking them as 4-star. With Lewis you could at least see it occasionally, but still a big bust.
 
NATEizKING said:
Monday evening update:
PG Drew Buggs (GT):
PG Tyler Harris (T-2):
CG AJ Walker (T-2):
SG Koreem Ozier (T-2): ISU, Butler, ECU, Sacred Heart, Cal St-Northride, New Mexico
SG Justin Kier (GT): ISU, George Mason, Butler, MS, Auburn, AR, GA, NC State, Gtown, MN
SG Chaundee Brown (T-1):
SG Courvoisier McCauley (T-2):
SG Michael Flowers (T-1): Cal, DePaul, ISU, Santa Clara
SG Jose Perez (T-2):

What Changed:
PG Darious Perry (GT) commits to UCF, added PG Tyler Harris (T-2) and SG Jose Perez (T-2).
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Pre-Pre humpday?
 
CY74 said:
I posted this summary on one of the other message boards last week. Fred's and Prohm's high school recruiting are very similar. If you discount Prohm's first year, which was basically just grab whomever you can, their numbers are identical, 5 of 13. Depending on how Jackson and Conditt progress, Prohm's percentage may get a boost.

Prohm's high school recruiting (players coming in as freshman) has been been pretty much hit or total miss, with only a couple of players in the middle. Here is the list, with star rating and where I would place them. Could have missed someone, so add or correct as needed.

2019-20
Grill - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but miss for ISU
Leech - 3 star - miss
Anderson - 3 star - miss
Jackson - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities

2018-19
Griffin - 4 star - miss
Conditt - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities
THT - 4 star - hit
Haliburton- 3 star - hit

2017-18
Wiggington - 4 star - hit
Lewis - 4 star - miss

2016-17
Lard - 4 star - hit, but had problem's
Young - 3 star - hit, in my view
Long - 4 star - miss

2015-16 CSP 1st freshman class
Carter - 3 star - miss
Ernst - ??? - miss

15 total players, 5 hits = 33% are/were impact players. So, percentages would suggest that at least one of the incoming freshman will be an impact player. Two would help immensely. It is a higher rated class than last year. Similar to the 2018-19 group, as far as ratings. JMO
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If you going to call Lard a hit then I would imagine that Godfrey and/or Gibson has to be one as well.
 
In regards to hit/misses, in basketball one timely hit makes a much bigger difference than the percentage change suggests.

We’re not far off.
 
CY74 said:
I posted this summary on one of the other message boards last week. Fred's and Prohm's high school recruiting are very similar. If you discount Prohm's first year, which was basically just grab whomever you can, their numbers are identical, 5 of 13. Depending on how Jackson and Conditt progress, Prohm's percentage may get a boost.

Prohm's high school recruiting (players coming in as freshman) has been been pretty much hit or total miss, with only a couple of players in the middle. Here is the list, with star rating and where I would place them. Could have missed someone, so add or correct as needed.

2019-20
Grill - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but miss for ISU
Leech - 3 star - miss
Anderson - 3 star - miss
Jackson - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities

2018-19
Griffin - 4 star - miss
Conditt - 3 star - ?????, still TBD, but has possibilities
THT - 4 star - hit
Haliburton- 3 star - hit

2017-18
Wiggington - 4 star - hit
Lewis - 4 star - miss

2016-17
Lard - 4 star - hit, but had problem's
Young - 3 star - hit, in my view
Long - 4 star - miss

2015-16 CSP 1st freshman class
Carter - 3 star - miss
Ernst - ??? - miss

15 total players, 5 hits = 33% are/were impact players. So, percentages would suggest that at least one of the incoming freshman will be an impact player. Two would help immensely. It is a higher rated class than last year. Similar to the 2018-19 group, as far as ratings. JMO
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2015 was a loaded team and he was hired in June. Please list the hits that were still available in June.

2016 you omitted the Juco who would be a hit.

2018 Conditt battled Young for Minutes, how is he not a hit.

2019 if you're going to count Grill a miss than the guy that sent him packing regardless of what his mother says has to be a hit.

I got it 8/16 including 2015 which is bogus.
 
Cyforce said:
2015 was a loaded team and he was hired in June. Please list the hits that were still available in June.

2016 you omitted the Juco who would be a hit.

2018 Conditt battled Young for Minutes, how is he not a hit.

2019 if you're going to count Grill a miss than the guy that sent him packing regardless of what his mother says has to be a hit.

I got it 8/16 including 2015 which is bogus.
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I’m fairly certain the question was regarding freshmen and this that is why JUCO’s are omitted.
 
rochclone said:
If you going to call Lard a hit then I would imagine that Godfrey and/or Gibson has to be one as well.
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Maybe Godfrey. He was at least solid in his one year. Gibson, no way. Lard was the 1st or 2nd best player on the team his freshman year. I'd go as far as to say Lard had a more impressive freshman year than THT.
 
isutrevman said:
Maybe Godfrey. He was at least solid in his one year. Gibson, no way. Lard was the 1st or 2nd best player on the team his freshman year. I'd go as far as to say Lard had a more impressive freshman year than THT.
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I think the difference being that Gibson and THT plated on NCAA tournament teams...can’t say the same for 17-18.
 
obviously being able to land them is a whole other story, but there are definitely still a decent number of good transfers announcing
 
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Cyforce said:
The response was a slanted view of the recruiting classes. Fact is the hits are why we are currently in this situation.
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So we aren’t in this position because of misses on two Top 150 kids and 3/4 of the freshmen class leaving after a year but rather because over the course of two years we have had one guy leave for the lottery, one for the mid-second and one to play in the G League. I think it is a bit of a mixture of both. The freshmen class this year should be very good (it has to be) but I think it’s fair to say that we are in this tenuous position because of some misses.
 
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