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MLB: ***Official 2018 Chicago Cubs Season Thread***

chuckd4735 said:
LOL yeah. It's natural for a fan base to predict the worst and be relieved when the best happens. I'm still confident we hang on, and still willing to take bets we win the Division and home field advantage in the NL. Hopefully we can get these next two and St Louis can salvage one tonight and we get the lead back up to 2 before the weekend.
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Should have taken you up on this.
 
Clonefan94 said:
I wouldn't mind hearing an answer to the question asked though. I won't throw the language in there though and I will ask it. Why does MLB not take into account any of the regular season Head to head to determine a tie breaker? It just seems ridiculous that you play all of these games during the regular season, but then the tie breaker is having to play another game against a team you already beat head to head during the season. I mean, even with today's loss, the Cubs still won more games against Milwaukee during the season, right?

In the end, I don't really care, but it seems to take away all emphasis for playing 162 games during the regular season. So I am genuinely curious if MLB has any real reasoning for not having a basic head to head record as a tiebreaker. I mean I get it, from back in the old days when you didn't have a wild card, but it seems to take a lot of importance away from the regular season now that a basic tiebreaker rule wouldn't necessarily keep you out of the post season.
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I think another reason it makes sense to play a tie-breaker even if one team won the head-to-head is that half of the games are played before the trade deadline. The Brewers added a lot of key pieces that were not with the team for half of the games. Those games are still important to get you into October, but may not represent the current rosters.
 
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Cardinal and Gold said:
I think another reason it makes sense to play a tie-breaker even if one team won the head-to-head is that half of the games are played before the trade deadline. The Brewers added a lot of key pieces that were not with the team for half of the games. Those games are still important to get you into October, but may not represent the current rosters.
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Or a series could fall on the back end of a rotation against the best of a rotation. Or a rainout could have forced a double header the day before.
 
I will be much more detailed in our offseason thread.

But for a team that just finished with the second best record in the NL, I believe a major rehaul needs to be done.
 
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ISUCubswin said:
I will be much more detailed in our offseason thread.

But for a team that just finished with the second best record in the NL, I believe a major rehaul needs to be done.
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Totally agree. Only thing I'm concerned with is you will be selling low on a lot of guys.
 
Losing the division to the Brewers should be grounds for an immediate firing. It's like the Yankees or Red Sox losing their division to the Orioles.
 
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CYdTracked said:
I get it and it's a valid argument but today's results prove otherwise. Brewers are the hotter team right now. Cubs should have never played so poor in key stretches to be in this situation.
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Today's results prove something? I thought your claim was all 162 matter? 162 > 1.

If all 162 matter then no matter how you slice it the Cubs and Brewers are the top two seeds in the NL and it isnt close.

It is MLB that places the emphasis on winning the Division, which the Cubs did after 162. Cubs were 11-8 against Brewers head to head and Cubs were 41-35 against the div Brewers 39-37. Even after todays win the Brewers still finished 1 game back against the Div. If the emphasis is the div there is no way to logically deny that the Cubs were better.

In the end there is no rational reason the Cubs and Brewers should have played today. It was a meaningless game thankfully nobody got hurt. (And yes I know there was meaning only because MLB is getting it wrong)
 
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Some of you really need to get a grip. If the Cardinals just win one of those games in St Louis, we are resting today and waiting for Thursday. It took a nearly impossible late season run for the Brewers to tie us in the Division, and with how hot they are, they took it today. Good for them. We still won 95 freaking games in the best Division in baseball.
 
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chuckd4735 said:
A discussion I would like to have is how the Wild Card winner automatically plays the team with the best record. IMO, Milwaukee should be playing the worst team out there (Braves), and the Wild Card winner should be play the West champ, and whoever has the better record should be hosting.
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Some truth to this for AL also. Yankees had 100 wins and Oakland had 97 in divisions with strong teams and much tougher schedules than Cleveland who managed 91 in a weakass division of sub .500 teams.
 
BoxsterCy said:
Some truth to this for AL also. Yankees had 100 wins and Oakland had 97 in divisions with strong teams and much tougher schedules than Cleveland who managed 91 in a weakass division of sub .500 teams.
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There is obviously a lot of emphasis put onto winning your Division. But that should just guarantee you a shot getting a 5-game series instead of a 1-game playoff. Reseed every round based off record after that.
 
Sounds like the Rockies plan to roll out Freeland on 3 days rest. Gave up 11 hits to the Nats on Friday. 2 runs over 6 on 95 pitches.

Can’t say I’ve followed the Rockies close enough to know what Freeland will bring.
 
I hope the MLB reviews their tiebreaker policy this offseason. You can't say 162 games are important, play each other 18 times, and if one of the teams was clearly better during the season, in terms of a tie, the team that won the most of 18 times wins. If THAT'S a tie, then do what we're doing today.

Silly Cubs and Rockies are getting boned by this whole process.
 
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ISUCubswin said:
I hope the MLB reviews their tiebreaker policy this offseason. You can't say 162 games are important, play each other 18 times, and if one of the teams was clearly better during the season, in terms of a tie, the team that won the most of 18 times wins. If THAT'S a tie, then do what we're doing today.

Silly Cubs and Rockies are getting boned by this whole process.
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Nah, I don’t agree with that. They play each other 18 times - the other 144 matter too. A lot can happen in a season and it shouldn’t just rest on if you had a healthy stretch, were hot, etc etc when you played the other team. They tied, they have a tiebreaker for that. Play it on the field at the end.
 
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ISUCubswin said:
I hope the MLB reviews their tiebreaker policy this offseason. You can't say 162 games are important, play each other 18 times, and if one of the teams was clearly better during the season, in terms of a tie, the team that won the most of 18 times wins. If THAT'S a tie, then do what we're doing today.

Silly Cubs and Rockies are getting boned by this whole process.
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I would tend to agree with the idea of the team who won the regular season match up being the one who wins the division tiebreaker (even though that would have meant that the Brewers would have to play the WC game this year). However, the Dodgers were the ones who got screwed by this rule, not the Rox (the Dodgers won regular season series 12-7).
 
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