Offense - What to Watch Suggestion

ChickenWing

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A lot of critical posters this year and it will be a long offseason listening to complaints about the offense. While complaints are justified the content is overwhelmingly ignorant and redundant. My suggestion is to take the game today as an opportunity to educate yourself.

Before the snap identify our formation(doubles/trips - open or closed/2 tights) the defensive setup...which often changes quickly. Watch the line battle every play because you'll be able to see ball action even while watching line play. Pick a different side or player each time. On plays that don't work (subjective) identity the defensive player that disrupted the play and quickly rewind and see where he came from, who missed the assignment and make a judgement on whether they were put into position to succeed.

If you take this suggestion please don't come back and rail on players. Every down is a battle for each of them and you don't always win but you need to win together consistently. You may be disappointed in players you've been lead to believe are studs. You might be surprised by guys like lalk or appreciate why shontrelle does what he does. You also might extrapolate some strategy.....lets all keep our fingers crossed it doesn't go like the Iowa game.

Many of you like to be critical and you'll probably enjoy this. For many at least this might help you from making uninformed/overgeneralized comments for the next 9 months. You'll be able to compare your analysis of factors on a more detailed level than "read option sucks", "we only run two plays" or "why run up the middle on 2nd and long".
 
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Sorry, way too complicated for me to process this afternoon. Want to see more pictures of riots with couches on fire.
 
A lot of critical posters this year and it will be a long offseason listening to complaints about the offense. While complaints are justified the content is overwhelmingly ignorant and redundant. My suggestion is to take the game today as an opportunity to educate yourself.

Before the snap identify our formation(doubles/trips - open or closed/2 tights) the defensive setup...which often changes quickly. Watch the line battle every play because you'll be able to see ball action even while watching line play. Pick a different side or player each time. On plays that don't work (subjective) identity the defensive player that disrupted the play and quickly rewind and see where he came from, who missed the assignment and make a judgement on whether they were put into position to succeed.

If you take this suggestion please don't come back and rail on players. Every down is a battle for each of them and you don't always win but you need to win together consistently. You may be disappointed in players you've been lead to believe are studs. You might be surprised by guys like lalk or appreciate why shontrelle does what he does. You also might extrapolate some strategy.....lets all keep our fingers crossed it doesn't go like the Iowa game.

Many of you like to be critical and you'll probably enjoy this. For many at least this might help you from making uninformed/overgeneralized comments for the next 9 months. You'll be able to compare your analysis of factors on a more detailed level than "read option sucks", "we only run two plays" or "why run up the middle on 2nd and long".

The real bottom line is about winning, points scored, points allowed, stats. If you win one individual battle and lose the other ten, it is a stuffing.
 
Thanks. Hey, I admit that I don't know football...but endless injuries are kinda obvious.

I have been accused by many friends this year of using injuries as an excuse. Because i do think injuries have played a big factor for us this year. They absolutely have.
But we are 109th in total offense. 98th in PPG. That is worse than can be fully explained by injuries. So without injuries we jump up to 60th? Because that's where we need to be at minimum.
 
I'd want to be paid 330k to do this, because I'd be doing more than mess.
 
I have been accused by many friends this year of using injuries as an excuse. Because i do think injuries have played a big factor for us this year. They absolutely have.
But we are 109th in total offense. 98th in PPG. That is worse than can be fully explained by injuries. So without injuries we jump up to 60th? Because that's where we need to be at minimum.

That seems to be the best case scenario. Less injuries, we rise up to mediocre. With all things as they are, the offense just sits at horrible while people make one excuse or another.
 
That seems to be the best case scenario. Less injuries, we rise up to mediocre. With all things as they are, the offense just sits at horrible while people make one excuse or another.

Less injuries would have surely made a difference. I just dont know if less injuries lifts us up as far as we NEED to go.
There is a difference between just below average and what we are.
 
I'd want to be paid 330k to do this, because I'd be doing more than mess.

I finally figured out you are the lady in my section that yells "ohh come on" on every single play. I have no idea why you went to the kansas game only to complain when we were winning by 30? I also feel sorry for your husband that looks like a beaten man.
 
I finally figured out you are the lady in my section that yells "ohh come on" on every single play. I have no idea why you went to the kansas game only to complain when we were winning by 30? I also feel sorry for your husband that looks like a beaten man.
Ohh come on is Mess' reaction when the bubble screen doesn't work on 3rd and 12.
 
A lot of critical posters this year and it will be a long offseason listening to complaints about the offense. While complaints are meaningtified the content is overwhelmingly ignorant and redundant. My suggestion is to take the game today as an opportunity to educate yourself.

Before the snap identify our formation(doubles/trips - open or closed/2 tights) the defensive setup...which often changes quickly. Watch the line battle every play because you'll be able to see ball action even while watching line play. Pick a different side or player each time. On plays that don't work (subjective) identity the defensive player that disrupted the play and quickly rewind and see where he came from, who missed the assignment and make a judgement on whether they were put into position to succeed.

If you take this suggestion please don't come back and rail on players. Every down is a battle for each of them and you don't always win but you need to win together consistently. You may be disappointed in players you've been lead to believe are studs. You might be surprised by guys like lalk or appreciate why shontrelle does what he does. You also might extrapolate some strategy.....lets all keep our fingers crossed it doesn't go like the Iowa game.

Many of you like to be critical and you'll probably enjoy this. For many at least this might help you from making uninformed/overgeneralized comments for the next 9 months. You'll be able to compare your analysis of factors on a more detailed level than "read option sucks", "we only run two plays" or "why run up the middle on 2nd and long".

I'm sorry, but are you nuts??? The offensive gameplanning this year has been awful, just awful... next step, offensive coaching has left plenty to be desired, meaning the players dont look prepared, they play timid and really just look likr they dont believe in the system... the QBs have been mismanaged horribly, who is the main person responsible for those things I listed to be handled?
 
I have been accused by many friends this year of using injuries as an excuse. Because i do think injuries have played a big factor for us this year. They absolutely have.
But we are 109th in total offense. 98th in PPG. That is worse than can be fully explained by injuries. So without injuries we jump up to 60th? Because that's where we need to be at minimum.
Well, I've never claimed that injuries were the only reason offensive performance was poor. I don't know if full health on the offensive line alone would have brought that much improvement, but mix in improved player execution, experience, and perfect play calling could certainly make it there.
 
Well, I've never claimed that injuries were the only reason offensive performance was poor. I don't know if full health on the offensive line alone would have brought that much improvement, but mix in improved player execution, experience, and perfect play calling could certainly make it there.
You don't need to type it in black-n-white specifically. You just bring up injuries every single time anything even remotely negative is said about the team coaches. Not once in a while. Not most of the time. But every single time.

No more "the sun will come out tomorrow" nonsense needed.
 
Watch how long our QBs take to get rid of the ball. How poor their arm strength / accuracy is on the bubble/sideline throw.


My guess is the answer will be slow and behind the WR/RB
 
I agree that injuries are why our offense sucks so bad. I find it amazing that we're the only school in college football to have injuries to our offensive players. I mean, how awful of luck is that?
 
You don't need to type it in black-n-white specifically. You just bring up injuries every single time anything even remotely negative is said about the team coaches. Not once in a while. Not most of the time. But every single time.

No more "the sun will come out tomorrow" nonsense needed.
True. Because I think it's significant. But I've never said it's the only factor--in fact, I'm sure that you can find my posts where I've elaborated in more depth.

Or, are you just trying to put words in my mouth that I didn't say....again?

Seriously. It's not my fault if you choose to misinterpret what I write. That's on you.
 

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