Mexico City is such a terrible place to live.... So dirty and gross and I can't have my amenities!
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NFL: NFL Considering Expansion
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I get what you’re saying, but for example St. Louis and San Diego’s teams didn’t leave due to lack of fan support/interest. They left due to the unbridled greed of the jackass owners of those two franchises.
Meanwhile homeboy probably lives in some ****** river town in Iowa.Mexico City is such a terrible place to live.... So dirty and gross and I can't have my amenities!
Seems like the answer would be a pod in Europe. 6 of their games amongst themselves, home and away. So less transatlantic games, though still a lot. London, Munich, Paris, and idk, Madrid maybe.
Might be enough interest to make it work and add truly new eyeballs / money. If it really works, add 4 more in a decade.
I know the Euro league they had before didn't work out, but try try again.
Might be enough interest to make it work and add truly new eyeballs / money. If it really works, add 4 more in a decade.
I know the Euro league they had before didn't work out, but try try again.
Would Portland, Oklahoma City or Memphis support a team?
Portland supports the Timbers and isn't horrible in its support of the Trail Blazers.
Memphis and OK City have been solid in their support of the Griz and Thunder.
I feel like I'd rather see one of those cities get a shot versus trying something that's already failed once or twice.
Portland supports the Timbers and isn't horrible in its support of the Trail Blazers.
Memphis and OK City have been solid in their support of the Griz and Thunder.
I feel like I'd rather see one of those cities get a shot versus trying something that's already failed once or twice.
You don't think the NFL would get more TV money to spread out to their Teams if they had 36 teams? Of course they would.
More? Sure. Incrementally.
But not nearly enough to make up for the thinner slicing of the pie.
The NFL doesn't really have an "territory" to break into with a TV contract that it doesn't already essentially dominate in the U.S. and, to some degree, in Canada and Mexico. People in Salt Lake City or Portland watch the Broncos and the Seahawks and national games just fine. Adding a team in Utah or a team in Oregon, both of which would be in two of the smallest markets in the league because all the largest cities are already snapped up, is not going to come close to making up for the 1/36th cut instead of the 1/32nd cut as it is now.
The exception to that might be London. Lots of potential new and unsaturated market in Europe.
Mexico City is over 7,000' in elevation, like 2,000' more than Denver. It would also become the most isolated city in the NFL, with Houston being the closest city at 2 hours 15 minutes away by plane. Seattle right now is the furthest from any other city at 2 hour flight to SF. I doubt you'll get many takers for driving to Mexico City too, plus a language barrier. It would just make no sense.
It's because they've already cowed those cities into fully/partially paying for stadiums, so they know they can hold them hostage again
Everybody knows Mexico City has a nice part to it with lots of rich white people. Great.
Still wouldn't want to live there. Isn't it one of the most polluted cities in the world? Maybe they've improved that. It's also sinking and over crowded. Oh, and it's in Mexico. No thanks.
My sources tell me that Brock Purdy will be starting for one of these expansion teams and CMC will be its head coach.
I think expansion would be a horrible idea.
Only roughly half the current teams even have a QB good enough to win a championship….. we really want to water the league down some more??
Only roughly half the current teams even have a QB good enough to win a championship….. we really want to water the league down some more??
I struggle to see expansion of just 1 European city. Would seem like if the NFL wants to expand to Europe they would want to add the equivalent of a European division- aka London, Berlin, Madrid & Paris. But since the NFL has pretty much limited overseas games to London the last few years, seems like they have moved on from Europe except as a novelty (a couple games each year).
Mexico City, Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver would help expand the NFL outside of the current US TV markets.
Not sure how they would work the divisions with expansion. Go to five or six team divisions?
Mexico City, Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver would help expand the NFL outside of the current US TV markets.
Not sure how they would work the divisions with expansion. Go to five or six team divisions?
Huh. Throw in a good time zone, major metro area, rabid fans of sports, easy air, a professional stadium in place, etc.
Bring on the Mexico City Conquistadors!
"Statistician Nate Silver estimates the number of NFL fans in Mexico City at 1.5 million, more than in Detroit and Las Vegas combined, and more than three times the fan base in London"
Bring on the Mexico City Conquistadors!
"Statistician Nate Silver estimates the number of NFL fans in Mexico City at 1.5 million, more than in Detroit and Las Vegas combined, and more than three times the fan base in London"
And the Bills already tried Toronto
"A large attendance drop from about 50,000 to 40,000 occurred in 2012 as the practice wound down, while attendance fell even further during the first year of the new deal in 2013"
en.m.wikipedia.org
"A large attendance drop from about 50,000 to 40,000 occurred in 2012 as the practice wound down, while attendance fell even further during the first year of the new deal in 2013"
Bills Toronto Series - Wikipedia
Three games in the regular season have been played in Mexico City. All sold more than 75,000 seats.
People underestimate how large Mexico City is -- the metro area has a population of 21.8 million. That is the fifth-largest metro area in the world and slightly larger than NYC (19.3 million).
Yes, Mexico City is not as affluent as is NYC, but Mexico has a rapidly-growing economy, especially in Mexico City. Creating a multicultural, international, and bilingual league would be considered more of a feature than a bug to the NFL at this point. Assuming the Mexico City franchise would be in a division with teams in the Southeast or Southwest, its travel slate wouldn't be any worse than the ones of Seattle, New England, or Miami isolated in other corners of the country. Mexico City would be a favorite of Hispanic fans and draw large crowds in road games in NYC, LA, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. It makes a ton of sense if you are going to expand -- maybe the most of all. The McKinsey consultant in me would say absolutely do Mexico City.
The fact every NFL team tries to win the same way -- with a franchise quarterback -- is actually one of my least favorite things about the league. I like college football where teams play different styles and are not so dependent on heroics by a quarterback to completely carry an offense.
Seeing 1/3 the teams try to win through their QB, another 1/3 to try and win through other, more creative means, and 1/3 of the teams just plain suck would probably ultimately be more interesting.
Largest cities on that list without a franchise --
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-nfl-should-expand-to-london-but-first-canada-mexico-and-la/
Mexico City
Oakland and San Jose (though buried with SF, so maybe it doesn't count)
San Diego
Toronto
St. Louis
Orlando
Sacramento
Virginia Beach-Norfolk
San Antonio
London
Austin
Columbus, OH
Portland, OR
Motreal
Vancouver, BC
Oklahoma City
Honolulu
Memphis
Paris
San Juan, PR
Manchester, UK
Essen-Dusseldorf, BRD
Madrid, Spain
Pretty easy to pick six viable candidates out of the top of that list -- starting with STL and San Diego.
Not true for San Diego. As a former season ticket holder I can tell you first hand that the Chargers had really good support until the Spanos clan poisoned the well. After the BS that family put this city through they, rightfully, lost all goodwill. The worst owners in the history of sports.
My apologies for your loss.
I hope SD gets another team and gets the Chargers' identity back.
Let the second LA team rebrand somehow.
The NBA did it with the Hornets' IP coming back to Charlotte, so it's happened before.