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gocubs2118 said:
Bracketology - NCAA College Basketball Brackets and Predictions - ESPN

I know people think it's too early for this type of stuff but Lunardi has us in the first four out category. I'm surprised we jumped up that much after losing two games this past week.
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Am I correct that ISU wasn't even listed in Next Four Out last week? Or were we in First Four Out?

Holding steady or rising even with two straight losses. Encouraging.

A bunch of bubble teams must have dropped.

*Now that I look closer, part of a lift had to come because Baylor is now on No. 1 line (and Missouri & KU both jumped to a 2). Overall conference evaluation, I guess.
 
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cyclones500 said:
Am I correct that ISU wasn't even listed in Next Four Out last week? Or were we in First Four Out?

Holding steady or rising even with two straight losses. Encouraging.

A bunch of bubble teams must have dropped.

*Now that I look closer, part of a lift had to come because Baylor is now on No. 1 line (and Missouri & KU both jumped to a 2). Overall conference evaluation, I guess.
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We weren't listed at all and he said in his chat that last week was the first week we were even under consideration.
 
bawbie said:
8 big ten teams in the tourney, and Minny as a last 4 out.

Um, no. At least not if those teams keep losing to Iowa.
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Minny is playing better once they went in conference.


Last four in: BYU, Cincy, Memphis, potential B12 teams. Southern Miss and ISU out looking. Can we offer Cincy a B12 spot if they let us into the NCAA?
 
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gocubs2118 said:
We weren't listed at all and he said in his chat that last week was the first week we were even under consideration.
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That's what I thought.

Still obviously need several big wins to actually get there, but it shows how you don't have to be perfect to get near tournament status.

Something that slipped through the cracks: Texas is probably a "good win" at this point. Didn't seem like it qualified.
 
I know this is all hypothetical but if I live in Portland and I'm stuck with SDSU/BYU, Vanderbilt/Middle Tennessee, Gonzaga/Oral Roberts, and Creighton/Belmont I'm so ******.
 
Here is the recipe for getting in to the tournamennt.

We have to sweep all the bottom half teams (or the majority)
WE have to win out at home (maybe not Baylor)
Finish with 12-13 conference wins and get at least 1 win in the B12 tourney.

I guess we shall see....
 
HandSanitizer said:
Here is the recipe for getting in to the tournamennt.

We have to sweep all the bottom half teams (or the majority)
WE have to win out at home (maybe not Baylor)
Finish with 12-13 conference wins and get at least 1 win in the B12 tourney.

I guess we shall see....
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If we go 12-6 in conference play, we are a lock for the tourney, IMO. That being said, I HIGHLY doubt we only lose 4 more games this season. I expect about 10-8 record and a 5 seed in the Big 12 Tourney, which gives us a match up against the number 4 team (Kansas State) on day 2.
 
HandSanitizer said:
Here is the recipe for getting in to the tournamennt.

We have to sweep all the bottom half teams (or the majority)
WE have to win out at home (maybe not Baylor)
Finish with 12-13 conference wins and get at least 1 win in the B12 tourney.

I guess we shall see....
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12-6 might do it.

I still have a gut feeling ISU will sweep Baylor.

I won't rule out splitting with Missouri, either. Another gut feeling.

If either of those happen, then get (1) split with KU and (2) split KSU/sweep Texas, we're safely in, barring more than one bad loss.
 
We finish in top 5 in our league and we're in. I just dont see the big 12 only being a 4 bid conf.

I still think a&m could make a late season run and the Wins over them and tex look better.
 
chuckd4735 said:
If we go 12-6 in conference play, we are a lock for the tourney, IMO. That being said, I HIGHLY doubt we only lose 4 more games this season. I expect about 10-8 record and a 5 seed in the Big 12 Tourney, which gives us a match up against the number 4 team (Kansas State) on day 2.
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agreed if we go 12-6 there is no way we are held out of the tournament. I think a 9-9 record gets us into consideration and on the bubble. A good tournament showing would give us a much better chance. I think the 9-9 is the minimum and around an 11-7 record is almost a guaranteed spot. For the record I think we'll finish at 11-7 in conference play.
 
My simplistic take on the tourney:

9-9 we are on the wrong side of the bubble
10-8 we are on the right side of the bubble
11-7 we are in
 
mizouse87 said:
agreed if we go 12-6 there is no way we are held out of the tournament. I think a 9-9 record gets us into consideration and on the bubble. A good tournament showing would give us a much better chance. I think the 9-9 is the minimum and around an 11-7 record is almost a guaranteed spot. For the record I think we'll finish at 11-7 in conference play.
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Before conference play, I thought ISU should break every thing down into 3 games sets, and have a goal of going 2-1 in every 3-game set. Of those, the ones that will be challenges, are the third set (@Texas, KU, KSU) and the final 3 games (@KSU, @MU, Baylor). Honestly, from what I have seen so far out of this conference, I expect 10 wins from this team; anything less is disappointing, and anything more shows improvement. We go 10-8 in conference play, plus pull out one win in the Big 12 tourney (it has been forever!), we are sitting at 23-14.
 
I think KU and Missouri were considered the team's first real tests, and while they didn't win, they showed that they could compete against, and possibly beat the best teams in the league. To stay in the conversation, they have to win the ones they should and actually beat some of the big boys. I think they will.
 
Sloup said:
Nobody's saying anything about the fact that we're out of the tournament, but Texas is in.
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Fair enough observation.

Compare UT's resume to ISU's:

Texas Men's College Basketball - Longhorns News, Scores, Videos - College Basketball - ESPN

If there's any boost for Texas, it may be SOS, but I'm not so sure. Bad loss to Oregon State. Losses to NC State & UNC seem to be a help (similar to ISU's losses to U-M, Missouri & KU)

Slight boost for beating Temple, which beat Duke — but Temple isn't doing so well in A-10 so far (but Lunardi does have that league at 4 bids).
 
The thing that I'm most concerned about is the last three games on our regular season schedule. Of our next 11 games, we have six against what I consider the worst three teams in the conference (Tech, OSU, OU) and two against teams we've already beat (@Texas, home against A&M), plus we have Kansas and K-State at home and then a road game at Baylor. I can see us going 8-3 or 7-4 through that stretch, which would either put us at 10-5 or 9-6 heading into our final three games of the year. The problem, those last three games are @K-State, @Missouri and home against Baylor.

Losing three straight going into the conference tournament is not going to look good to the committee.
 
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