New transfer rules

[NiceMarmot]

Every other sport in college athletics allows players to immediately transfer. I see no reason why football and basketball should be any different. Plus, I'm sure coaches will still try to limit where players can go (which will result in certain and necessary backlash).

 

[clone52]

I have no problem with this. How many regular students go to college, realize its not the right place for them and transfer. I think you should allow the same thing for athletes.

I don't think it will be all bad for mid-majors either. It might be a recruiting tool. "Look, you have offers from Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, etc. I think you're better than that. Why don't you come to UNI for a year, dominate the Mo Valley and then if you don't enjoy it, watch the Dukes, Kentuckys and North Carolinas come calling. Kind of their own version of 1 and done.

Plus, for every transfer that goes to the bigger school, that is one fewer recruit that they can bring in.

Quoting myself here. It should be tied to their scholarship. If a school gives a player a 1 year scholarship with renewals, then they should be allowed to transfer without penalty. If a school gives a player a 4 year gaurenteed scholarship, then they have to sit out a year if they transfer.

Also, require schools that take in a transfer to give them a guarenteed scholarship for the rest of the elibility.

 

[baagoe]

I wonder how mid year transfers would work if this goes through. It’d be wild if guys could play for different teams in the same season.

 

[Mr Janny]

Every other sport in college athletics allows players to immediately transfer. I see no reason why football and basketball should be any different. Plus, I'm sure coaches will still try to limit where players can go (which will result in certain and necessary backlash).

This.

I will be very happy if they make this the case.

 

[Cycsk]

that's what i would do. pay them $X to train the players that need a bit of training. Everyone knows their roles going into it.

K-State already does quite a bit of this with the JUCO system in their state. It is amazing how many of the best JUCOs are in the state.

 

[VeloClone]

Guess I'll be the trouble-maker: any other student, even those on scholarship, can transfer without restriction. Any coach can leave (or be fired) at any time. Seems only fair that the players... ahem, STUDENT-athletes... be given the same opportunity.

Student athletes can transfer and go to another school just like every other student. It is only athletic competition that is restricted.

 

[Cycsk]

I wonder how mid year transfers would work if this goes through. It’d be wild if guys could play for different teams in the same season.

Wow. That is an interesting angle. You would have to think that there are seasonal restrictions to transferring. Even so, the dominoes falling whenever one person transfers would be multiplied. Not just for the current roster, but it would be huge for high school recruiting. I would expect a flurry of activity right before (and after) signing day. What a mess.

 

[isufbcurt]

This is awesome. 1 year to late. we'd be a pretty damn good Bball team right now if our two transfers werent sitting out.

 

[ruxCYtable]

I'm surprised so many people don't have a problem with this. I see this having zero positives for a school like Iowa State.

 

[Mr Janny]

I'm surprised so many people don't have a problem with this. I see this having zero positives for a school like Iowa State.

Because even though that might be the case, it's the right thing to do.

Also, as the above poster pointed out, taking one look at who is sitting on our bench this year because of transfer rules, should tell you that your argument that there are zero positives for ISU is false.

 

[RonBurgundy]

I'm surprised so many people don't have a problem with this. I see this having zero positives for a school like Iowa State.

Yep. Basketball may not be that bad, but I can see highly talented ISU freshman/soph FB players being coaxed to transfer to a bigger program. If they don't have to sit out, what would prevent this? We become a JUCO in FB.

 

[ruxCYtable]

Because even though that might be the case, it's the right thing to do.

Also, as the above poster pointed out, taking one look at who is sitting on our bench this year because of transfer rules, should tell you that your argument that there are zero positives for ISU is false.

Do you really want to live in a world where Bill Self and Roy Williams are secretly recruiting people who are already on your roster and there is no disincentive in place whatsoever to even make kids give it a second thought?

 

[jmb]

You would think so. It would have to be on the down low a bit, but it's something they could do.
Much like us an Northern Illinois.

The strikeouts at the P5 could also send down the kid that isn't quite P5 material. I see no reason why it would be on the dl.

 

[FinalFourCy]

It’ll be like every player is a grad transfer, and that type of speed-date recruiting hasn’t been Prohm’s style.

 

[Mr Janny]

Do you really want to live in a world where Bill Self and Roy Williams are secretly recruiting people who are already on your roster and there is no disincentive in place whatsoever to even make them give it a second thought?

Certainly things will need to adjust, and it might not be comfortable. That's the nature of change. But the system as it stands is fundamentally unfair, with athletes being held to different standards than other students. I don't give a crap if it makes it more difficult for some schools. It's the right thing to do.

 

[cloneteach]

As others have said, there are scholarship limits. In basketball especially, players might want to transfer up to the Duke's and UNC's of the world but that means someone that would have been in that spot is going to be playing elsewhere.

For college basketball as a whole, the "free agency" period is another talking point and keeps their sport relevant into the summer.

The hard part for coaches is going to be having an entire roster eligible throughout the year. Right now, it is pretty easy to keep most of your players relatively happy with PT if two or three of them are sitting out due to transfer rules.

 

[SoapyCy]

Wow. That is an interesting angle. You would have to think that there are seasonal restrictions to transferring. Even so, the dominoes falling whenever one person transfers would be multiplied. Not just for the current roster, but it would be huge for high school recruiting. I would expect a flurry of activity right before (and after) signing day. What a mess.

What's the point of signing day? Serious.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Certainly things will need to adjust, and it might not be comfortable. That's the nature of change. But the system as it stands is fundamentally unfair, with athletes being held to different standards than other students. I don't give a crap if it makes it more difficult for some schools. It's the right thing to do.

What’s unfair about that? Welcome to life. Those year-long noncompete clauses are standard.

That said I’m not interested in what’s fair, I’m interested in what’s best for ISU.

 

[CycloneErik]

The strikeouts at the P5 could also send down the kid that isn't quite P5 material. I see no reason why it would be on the dl.

Good point. I was thinking in terms of written agreements.
We'd definitely see "coincidences" like players moving between NC Central and UNC, or something like that.

 

[RonBurgundy]

LOL at those that think this is fair for the kids. If you give schools like Alabama the easy option of cherry picking the ten best sophomores in the country to transfer, they will quickly be running 10 kids off their program. And they won't give a **** about what is fair.

The top programs will benefit from this and schools like ISU will become JUCO feeders.