New 2011 Scholarship Offer
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I will agree with the first part.
MVC (NBA) talent: Mike Taylor, Wesley Johnson, Craig Brackins.
Oh, and did you happen to see the schools Ham is looking at?
And I'll counter by stating, good players leaving again and again with multiple years left of eligibility is a miss.
Brackins and Taylor were highly touted...it's not like Greg discovered those two.
Wes, sure, that was a good find.
Hams got some good schools looking at him, but his body of work this far has been pretty unimpressive.
Couple those 2 that he found and developed (Wes and Ham) against the 7-8 guys he completley whiffed on.
Maybe a stretch I was just trying to say college basketball is different now. The typical fit for a player is no longer a typical fit!
It is crazy that you are attempting to use the ability to sign highly touted players as support that McD's can only recruit MVC players. Plus, it is not like Greg waited around for those Brackins to become highly touted, he spotted talent and went after it. Brackins has been McD's only big-time recruit (until Colvin).
Three NBA players, plus guys like Gilstrap, Ham, Lucca, DG, Scotty, is pretty good. As far as recruiting goes, his downfall is he is short a guard (maybe two).
7-8 misses in your first four classes at a school is not horrible. You can afford to have a miss or two in each class imo, especially when some of those misses had other BCS offers.
Finally, McD has usually been one of the first to offer the players that come out of nowhere and blow-up.
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People really need to pull their heads out. McD is going to be here regardless of opinion next year. Lets not trash the kid (yes kid) before he ever even gets here. There is a pedigree there. most of the whiner and complainers in this thread will also turn around and sing the praises of this kid should he come here and be dominant.
Some folks here are so fairweather it is sickening.
Let the kid play out his high school career, get in the prgram and see what he can do. Who is to say that over this summer he doesn't bust his ***, grow another 2 insches and put on 15lbs of muscle.
Iowa, Iowa State, UNI, and Drake will always be schools that have to take flyers and risks on guys due to the nature of their competition in conference and out. We have never been a "national program." Stop acting like Hawk fans that assume the are much larger in the national eye than they truly are.
I for one openly welcome the kid as an early commit and hope he has a great career at ISU.
Some folks here are so fairweather it is sickening.
Let the kid play out his high school career, get in the prgram and see what he can do. Who is to say that over this summer he doesn't bust his ***, grow another 2 insches and put on 15lbs of muscle.
Iowa, Iowa State, UNI, and Drake will always be schools that have to take flyers and risks on guys due to the nature of their competition in conference and out. We have never been a "national program." Stop acting like Hawk fans that assume the are much larger in the national eye than they truly are.
I for one openly welcome the kid as an early commit and hope he has a great career at ISU.
My question is why we've (at least myself) have never heard of the kid? I'm not bashing him I'm just curious because I follow mbb recruiting pretty well and to think there was a junior in-state that was good enough for an offer without me ever having heard of him is what many I think are scratching their heads over.
I'm not saying I'm an expert but again just strange..
I'm not saying I'm an expert but again just strange..
7-8 misses in four class is not horrible? You do realize that they average 3-4 recruits per class? That makes at least half, if not more, of the guys he has recruited that haven't panned out. I'm not saying this kid wont pan out, I am just saying that I am concerned that McD and his staff's ability to evaluate talent and project their growth seems, in my opinion, to be limited. Based on the evidence of the past 4 years, 50-60 percent of his recruits don't pan out, about 20-30 percent become servicable players, and about 10 percent excels. In my opinion, thats not good enough.
The kid was just offered a scholarship. He's not a commit yet in anyway. With Albany we are going to have some tough competition for him. Let's hope that Binghampton and Stony Brook stay away from this kid or else we are screwed.
Haha, your right. Fine about a third...I'm in class right now and making an attempt to listen to a Civil Procedure lecture, I think you can tell which one is dominating my thought process.
Your discounting the ones that he has discovered and offered 1st that later blew up on the recruiting trails and landed very high level BCS playing time. Granted we didn't land them, but Mac was in early on these guys before they had high level offers. Barnes, Iverson, Zeller, Stanten, Cook, just to name a few.
By accounts of the people who have seen Uthoff play say he possess some skills and can shoot - (something sorely lacking in our program right now) super skinny, but hopefully can add some weight in the next 18 months. Time will tell if he will mature and develop into a serviceable Big XII player. In reality you have to have the role players. Mac's track record would indicate he has an ability to ID that talent at an early age. Getting them signed and playing for 4 years is another story.
It is a sad commentary on the state of affairs with the MBB program and the fan attitudes that would result in bashing a kid that very few have seen play. He is from a legacy family of an ALL-TIME Cyclone great and appears to WANT to play at ISU, and just happens to possess some basketball skill. How many of you were bemoaning the fact a few years back that we weren't recruiting Barry Stevens kid harder? Or the younger Jordan? What have they done at a high level BCS program?
The fact a kids has legitimate DI offers is not a bad thing. Dana Altman has a very decent track record taking kids from Iowa. The leaders of his best Creighton teams all were from Iowa. Anyone every hear of a perimeter player with a similar build from Pella that Altman signed, stared for 4 years at Creighton, and is playing for the Jazz? Unlikely he will be the next Kyle Korver, but don't let your negativity towards all things Mac lead you to assume Uthoff is a low level MVC caliber player and won't contribute at ISU.
With that said, I think Pollard made a huge mistake in retaining Greg for another year.
All great points. This is more directed at McD's recruiting strategy the past 4 years, rather than bashing this kid. For all I know this kid could be great, but based on what I do know (size, weight, offers, reports of his skill set), he seems to fit the bill of alot of guys that have come here and didn't pan out.
Let me put it this way. If Paul Rhoads recruited a linebacker that was maybe 5'10" 215 with limited speed with offers from a few MAC schools I would trust him because he his staff, in one year, has shown an ability to mold players into the type of player that fits their scheme. In 4 years of Greg McDermott, he has done nothing to show me that he has an ability to do what I feel confident his counterpart on the football side can do.
