Nebraska vs. ISU

My god man, why are you peeing in the wind?

ISU was picked to finish dead last in the Big 12. We beat you and also went to a bowl game. ISU exceeded expecations by a long shot while Nebraska fans were generally disappointed.

You were pretty good most of this thread, but blew it on this last post.

Bobber I meant no offense to you, but if you read the troll's post to which I responded you will see I was simply defending myself. Your incredibly wit-free comrade knocked me and so I knocked him. I simply posted the outcome of ISU's season, and didn't mention the many positives about ISU's impressive season because compliments are wasted upon incolent fools like him. Know that I respect ISU enough to spend a night posting on their forum.
 
Bobber I meant no offense to you, but if you read the troll's post to which I responded you will see I was simply defending myself. Your incredibly wit-free comrade knocked me and so I knocked him. I simply posted the outcome of ISU's season, and didn't mention the many positives about ISU's impressive season because compliments are wasted upon incolent fools like him. Know that I respect ISU enough to spend a night posting on their forum.

So now you are knocking me? Listen, you came on here and picked apart a thread that we had with predictions for next years game. You then started your own thread questioning this which is completely fine. It is also somewhat trollish. I have never been on or had the desire to go to a Husker board but I can imagine that if I did the same thing over there, I would likely be attacked. I am surrounded by Husker fans. It would not be stretch for them to come on here just to stir the pot. If you go back and look, I actually somewhat defended portions of your team (Crick). Of course, you probably didn't see that because you were dealing in what ifs. We won, get over it. I will stick with what I think was my prediction from the former thread. We win by two scores. I suppose that is utterly ridiculous though huh? I apologize that I think we will win.

Again as stated before when originally asked my reasons are:

1. Our offense will be better
2. Your defense will not be as good
3. Our defense will be more talented
4. the game is in Ames
 
You have posted over 8.000 time on a Cyclone site, yet I have never seen you post on HN?

Sure you have. You just need to look a little closer. You got pegged pretty quickly over there, so I'm pretty sure you can figure out what my screen name is on that site.

And this is the same guy that does not believe Iowa would ever encourage people to donate tickets to a bowl game, please.

Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I don't recall saying that. If you could provide a link or some other reference to that post or thread, that would be helpful.
 
Does anyone else agree with my previous response to cyclonedaves post?


Only if you agree that your defense lost the game last year.

With 7 minutes left in the game we started a drive inside the 10 yard line. A 3 and out with a punt and UNL is
in automatic range for Henry. What does our backup offense do against the vaunted black shirts? The correct answer is go on a game winning 5+ minute drive, punch it out to mid field, completely flip field position and force Zac Lee to win the game with this arm. As we all know, no disrespect intended to Cody (Green or Hawkins), there isn't a QB in the league that a defense would rather have in that position.

Game over! While the 8 (6 up until that point) turnovers certainly keep ISU in the game. ISU WON the game with the sustained drive late in the 4th quarter. If your feeble sker mind can't grasp ISU winning the game, then you must admit that the black shirts LOST it. It really is an either, or.
 
Only if you agree that your defense lost the game last year.

With 7 minutes left in the game we started a drive inside the 10 yard line. A 3 and out with a punt and UNL is
in automatic range for Henry. What does our backup offense do against the vaunted black shirts? The correct answer is go on a game winning 5+ minute drive, punch it out to mid field, completely flip field position and force Zac Lee to win the game with this arm. As we all know, no disrespect intended to Cody (Green or Hawkins), there isn't a QB in the league that a defense would rather have in that position.

Game over! While the 8 (6 up until that point) turnovers certainly keep ISU in the game. ISU WON the game with the sustained drive late in the 4th quarter. If your feeble sker mind can't grasp ISU winning the game, then you must admit that the black shirts LOST it. It really is an either, or.

Great point. I forgot about that.
 
I was there to witness the Big Red meltdown and the 85,000 mystifyed mummies. Remember that ISU's offense played to run clock and make Zach Lee win the game. As stated, the turnovers were, primarily, inside the "red zone" and ISU's offense consistently moved the ball well enough to punt the ball downfield to give Big Red another long drive. The 123 more yards of offense mentioned played into our scheme and was not a sign of NU's offensive superiority. Keep in mind our vaunted running back who consistently picked up tough yards against the vaunted black shirts, transfered at the end of the season. Of course it was a monumental upset, but I would expect ISU to give Big Red everything it wants in Ames and I hope they come in overhyped and undefeated, similar to the Walden upset if you recall.
 
Great point. I forgot about that.

On paper, Nebraska wins this game going away. Anyone who looks at this thing position-by-position has to admit that Nebraska will put better people on the field across-the-board.

If you look at it realistically, here is the breakdown:

Offensive Line: Slight edge to Nebraska (barring injuries). This group was young and banged up all last season, but will be a very solid unit this year. Most agree that Juco transfer Jamarcus Hardrick has All America potential. Iowa State returns three (possibly four) starters, and Kelechi Osemele is definitely a good one, but across-the-board their talent doesn't appear to match up to what Nebraska can put on the field, if healthy.
Tight Ends: Nebraska. The Huskers have enough depth at tight end to fill two rosters. Pick your poison.
Wide Receivers: Nebraska. Although Niles Paul arguably cost Nebraska the game in Lincoln last year, there is no question he is a very talented receiver. Antonio Bell, Will Henry and Brandon Kinnie have also shown big-play potential. If Darius Reynolds comes back from his injury and if Darius Darks continues to show improvement, Iowa State has big-play potential, as well.
Quarterback: Draw. If Nebraska starts Lee and Iowa State starts Arnaud, you arguably will see two of the worst quarterbacks in the conference that day. If Taylor Martinez emerges as the starter in Lincoln, all bets are off. He turned heads this spring especially as a running threat, but also as a passer. If Cody Green emerges as Nebraska's starter, I would also say all bets are off.
Running Backs: Nebraska. Alexander Robinson is a very good running back, however Nebraska can match him with either Roy Helu, Jr. (assuming he can shake his injury problems) or Rex Burkhead. From a depth standpoint, Nebraska wins this battle hands down.
Defensive Line: Nebraska. DT Jared Crick is a pre-season All America. Some seem to think he was only good because of Suh, but those who make a living following the game, certainly don't agree with that assessment. DE Pierre Allen also is a returning starter who played well last season. You toss in the emergence of Baker Steinkuhler as a force and Iowa State simply has nothing to match the Nebraska defesive line.
Linebackers: Nebraska. Seen as a weakness heading into 2009, this will be a pretty good group for NU this season, headed by Will Compton and Eric Martin. For Iowa State, the loss of Jesse Smith will be a definite hit.
Defensive Backfield: Nebraska. Prince Amukamara is a pre-season All American. Dejon Gomes and Alfonzo Dennard emerged as big-time players last season and if Ricky Thenarse comes back from his injury of a year ago, this clearly will be one of the best secondaries in the country.
Kicking: Nebraska. All you have to say is Alex Henery. Clearly the best kicker in the conference, if not the country.

Now, all that having been said, emotion is a huge factor in college football. Iowa State clearly played with emotion in Lincoln a year ago, Nebraska did not. If Iowa State can match that emotion and create turnovers like it did a year ago, yes they can win against Nebraska. The biggest problem for Iowa State is that Nebraska will remember what happened last November and won't come in complacent. There is no question Bo Pelini won't allow that to happen.

Nebraska should win by a comfortable margin.
 
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Sure you have. You just need to look a little closer. You got pegged pretty quickly over there, so I'm pretty sure you can figure out what my screen name is on that site.
What up Mr. Shada'sRevenge?
Offensive Line: Slight edge to Nebraska (barring injuries). This group was young and banged up all last season, but will be a very solid unit this year. Most agree that Juco transfer Jamarcus Hardrick has All America potential. Iowa State returns three (possibly four) starters, and Kelechi Osemele is definitely a good one, but across-the-board their talent doesn't appear to match up to what Nebraska can put on the field, if healthy.
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Running Backs: Nebraska. Alexander Robinson is a very good running back, however Nebraska can match him with either Roy Helu, Jr. (assuming he can shake his injury problems) or Rex Burkhead. From a depth standpoint, Nebraska wins this battle hands down.
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A-Rob is the best RB in the north. No questions asked. You do realize on one leg he was still a 1,000 yard rusher last year correct and he didn't even play in all the games?

I'm not even sure I give Nebraska an edge in receivers. Both teams' receivers were not good last year. If we're talking "Big play potential", Iowa State has Darks, Reynolds, Johnson, etc.

Lastly, emotions aren't one sided. Sure Lil Bo P won't let them forget what happened last year, but do you honestly think those kids forgot what happened? Nope, and you can bet they'd love to beat Nebraska again.
 
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On paper, Nebraska wins this game going away. Anyone who looks at this thing position-by-position has to admit that Nebraska will put better people on the field across-the-board.

If you look at it realistically, here is the breakdown:

Offensive Line: Slight edge to Nebraska (barring injuries). This group was young and banged up all last season, but will be a very solid unit this year. Most agree that Juco transfer Jamarcus Hardrick has All America potential. Iowa State returns three (possibly four) starters, and Kelechi Osemele is definitely a good one, but across-the-board their talent doesn't appear to match up to what Nebraska can put on the field, if healthy.
Tight Ends: Nebraska. The Huskers have enough depth at tight end to fill two rosters. Pick your poison.
Wide Receivers: Nebraska. Although Niles Paul arguably cost Nebraska the game in Lincoln last year, there is no question he is a very talented receiver. Antonio Bell, Will Henry and Brandon Kinnie have also shown big-play potential. If Darius Reynolds comes back from his injury and if Darius Darks continues to show improvement, Iowa State has big-play potential, as well.
Quarterback: Draw. If Nebraska starts Lee and Iowa State starts Arnaud, you arguably will see two of the worst quarterbacks in the conference that day. If Taylor Martinez emerges as the starter in Lincoln, all bets are off. He turned heads this spring especially as a running threat, but also as a passer. If Cody Green emerges as Nebraska's starter, I would also say all bets are off.
Running Backs: Nebraska. Alexander Robinson is a very good running back, however Nebraska can match him with either Roy Helu, Jr. (assuming he can shake his injury problems) or Rex Burkhead. From a depth standpoint, Nebraska wins this battle hands down.
Defensive Line: Nebraska. DT Jared Crick is a pre-season All America. Some seem to think he was only good because of Suh, but those who make a living following the game, certainly don't agree with that assessment. DE Pierre Allen also is a returning starter who played well last season. You toss in the emergence of Baker Steinkuhler as a force and Iowa State simply has nothing to match the Nebraska defesive line.
Linebackers: Nebraska. Seen as a weakness heading into 2009, this will be a pretty good group for NU this season, headed by Will Compton and Eric Martin. For Iowa State, the loss of Jesse Smith will be a definite hit.
Defensive Backfield: Nebraska. Prince Amukamara is a pre-season All American. Dejon Gomes and Alfonzo Dennard emerged as big-time players last season and if Ricky Thenarse comes back from his injury of a year ago, this clearly will be one of the best secondaries in the country.
Kicking: Nebraska. All you have to say is Alex Henery. Clearly the best kicker in the conference, if not the country.

Now, all that having been said, emotion is a huge factor in college football. Iowa State clearly played with emotion in Lincoln a year ago, Nebraska did not. If Iowa State can match that emotion and create turnovers like it did a year ago, yes they can win against Nebraska. The biggest problem for Iowa State is that Nebraska will remember what happened last November and won't come in complacent. There is no question Bo Pelini won't allow that to happen.

Nebraska should win by a comfortable margin.
This is comical, TE's, QB, RB, OLine, WRs, owned by ISU and I would say too for the secondary. There are at least a half full of draft picks for ISU in these areas.
 
On paper, Nebraska wins this game going away. Anyone who looks at this thing position-by-position has to admit that Nebraska will put better people on the field across-the-board.

If you look at it realistically, here is the breakdown:

Offensive Line: Slight edge to Nebraska (barring injuries). This group was young and banged up all last season, but will be a very solid unit this year. Most agree that Juco transfer Jamarcus Hardrick has All America potential. Iowa State returns three (possibly four) starters, and Kelechi Osemele is definitely a good one, but across-the-board their talent doesn't appear to match up to what Nebraska can put on the field, if healthy.
Tight Ends: Nebraska. The Huskers have enough depth at tight end to fill two rosters. Pick your poison.
Wide Receivers: Nebraska. Although Niles Paul arguably cost Nebraska the game in Lincoln last year, there is no question he is a very talented receiver. Antonio Bell, Will Henry and Brandon Kinnie have also shown big-play potential. If Darius Reynolds comes back from his injury and if Darius Darks continues to show improvement, Iowa State has big-play potential, as well.
Quarterback: Draw. If Nebraska starts Lee and Iowa State starts Arnaud, you arguably will see two of the worst quarterbacks in the conference that day. If Taylor Martinez emerges as the starter in Lincoln, all bets are off. He turned heads this spring especially as a running threat, but also as a passer. If Cody Green emerges as Nebraska's starter, I would also say all bets are off.
Running Backs: Nebraska. Alexander Robinson is a very good running back, however Nebraska can match him with either Roy Helu, Jr. (assuming he can shake his injury problems) or Rex Burkhead. From a depth standpoint, Nebraska wins this battle hands down.
Defensive Line: Nebraska. DT Jared Crick is a pre-season All America. Some seem to think he was only good because of Suh, but those who make a living following the game, certainly don't agree with that assessment. DE Pierre Allen also is a returning starter who played well last season. You toss in the emergence of Baker Steinkuhler as a force and Iowa State simply has nothing to match the Nebraska defesive line.
Linebackers: Nebraska. Seen as a weakness heading into 2009, this will be a pretty good group for NU this season, headed by Will Compton and Eric Martin. For Iowa State, the loss of Jesse Smith will be a definite hit.
Defensive Backfield: Nebraska. Prince Amukamara is a pre-season All American. Dejon Gomes and Alfonzo Dennard emerged as big-time players last season and if Ricky Thenarse comes back from his injury of a year ago, this clearly will be one of the best secondaries in the country.
Kicking: Nebraska. All you have to say is Alex Henery. Clearly the best kicker in the conference, if not the country.

Now, all that having been said, emotion is a huge factor in college football. Iowa State clearly played with emotion in Lincoln a year ago, Nebraska did not. If Iowa State can match that emotion and create turnovers like it did a year ago, yes they can win against Nebraska. The biggest problem for Iowa State is that Nebraska will remember what happened last November and won't come in complacent. There is no question Bo Pelini won't allow that to happen.

Nebraska should win by a comfortable margin.
ISU will have the best OLine and RB not only in the conference, but on of the best in America, they were right there last year and all but one returns.
 
This is comical, TE's, QB, RB, OLine, WRs, owned by ISU and I would say too for the secondary. There are at least a half full of draft picks for ISU in these areas.

You almost had me on your side there, until the bolded statement. not even Miami during their run of draft picks in the early 2000s could claim to have had that many draft picks.

Please tell me who you think will be drafted.
 
A-Rob is the best RB in the north. No questions asked. You do realize on one leg he was still a 1,000 yard rusher last year correct and he didn't even play in all the games?

You do realize that Roy Helu, Jr. rushed for over 800 yards as a sophomore, splitting time with Marlon Lucky and then rushed for over 1000 yards as a junior, in spite of foot injury problems that plagued him for most of the season? You do realize that, in spite of playing in a backup role, Burkhead is probably a more talented running back than Helu?

ARob is a very good running back, but I wouldn't bet on him being the best running back in the North this season!
 
You do realize that Roy Helu, Jr. rushed for over 800 yards as a sophomore, splitting time with Marlon Lucky and then rushed for over 1000 yards as a junior, in spite of foot injury problems that plagued him for most of the season? You do realize that, in spite of playing in a backup role, Burkhead is probably a more talented running back than Helu?

ARob is a very good running back, but I wouldn't bet on him being the best running back in the North this season!
LOL, I would take Thomas over Helu. Just cause he plays RB for "Big Red" does not make him a star. This is not your daddy's Nebraska.
1) Arob


2) Distant second, Thomas
3) Helu
 
You do realize that Roy Helu, Jr. rushed for over 800 yards as a sophomore, splitting time with Marlon Lucky and then rushed for over 1000 yards as a junior, in spite of foot injury problems that plagued him for most of the season? You do realize that, in spite of playing in a backup role, Burkhead is probably a more talented running back than Helu?

ARob is a very good running back, but I wouldn't bet on him being the best running back in the North this season!

Nebraska fans would rather have Helu, ISU would rather have A-Rob. Burkhead hasn't proven anything.

Call it a tie and I don't think either side would be too offended.
 
Fuskers need to wake up to the real world, never going to be Big12 Champs, go to the little 10 or 11 and get pounded there also
 

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