NBA in China

[boone7247]

Need=can they operate. The NBA is one of the few organizations that can take a stand against China if they want. It would definitely be painful and I don’t want to get into whether they should because that gets political but the NBA absolutely can ride that out longer than the Chinese government.

I think that is a good point. The NBA doesn't rely on China for manufacturing or raw goods. But is partners do. What does Nike have to say about all this, that is a big revenue partner of the NBA and their athletes. It sure isn't as easy as the NBA just walk away from China, which would put a huge dent in a lot of partners' current and future plans for both revenue and product.

 

[cycfan1]

I should not have use SJW, it was a bad way to paraphrase the CNN reporter's question. I am hoping the rest of the post isn't directed at what I said, because leaping from SJW to Trump to saying I am suggesting free speech should be suppressed is far from anything I said in my post.

China has a control issue, the NBA has a revenue partner issue, and the rest of the US sports world just got woken up to how much influence China is pressing on the world from a free speech standard. That is all I was slightly pointing out in that post.

Had nothing to do with what you said, he is unable to physically reply to a post without mentioning that somehow.

 

[Doc]

When it comes to China most companies have more in common with inflatable sex dolls than with actual self-determining businesses.

Well, I’m more familiar with blow-up dolls than I am with doing business in China.

 

[SpokaneCY]

I tend to agree -- as with any other profit-focused company, they'll do whatever marketing makes them the most money. Period. Guys sitting at the Board of Directors table don't give a flying f*** about Hong Kong or communist governments or gays, they just want money. Thus, the facade of caring to drum up more money.

I agree and that makes me sad.

 

[SpokaneCY]

It was a joke... one thing the Chinese can't copy and steal from US is genetics and superior sports leagues... so might have a little bit of leverage with this one.

Well - Chinese "hobby" botanists HAVE been found stealing proprietary seed corn from the midwest so maybe genetics is a code they aim to crack.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Lockheed Martin would sell F-35's to China if it could.

 

[SpokaneCY]

I thought Steph's statement was much better. Basically that this was a complicated issue-- not so much the Hong Kong part, but the various interests at play with the NBA. Honestly, I'd find it refreshing if they'd just say there is an absolute ****-pot load of money on the line here so we all have to be careful what we say.

Would be refreshingly transparent and true!

 

[CycloneVet]

It would hurt but the NBA doesn’t need China.

I have a feeling China would grovel themselves back into the fold of the NBA showed a backbone

 

[SpokaneCY]

Well, I’m more familiar with blow-up dolls than I am with doing business in China.

I wanna know why ALL those dolls look so surprised...

 

[isutrevman]

I don’t think it’s hypocritical for any of the companies that have capitulated to China to allow their people the freedom to voice opinions on issues.

I don’t want this to go to the cave, but I’m probably one of the more anti-capitalism posters there, so personally I’m happy to see more people are joining the “let’s not try to maximize profits at the expense of people” camp.

It's not hypocritical to for the NBA to allow players/coaches to voice their opinions on social issues in the U.S., but not China?

 

[HFCS]

It's not hypocritical to for the NBA to allow players/coaches to voice their opinions on social issues in the U.S., but not China?

It is clearly hypocritical.

It doesn't mean past political statements from players or coaches were meaningless or without merrit, that's a stupid place to take it.

It's also hypocritical for people to celebrate China interfering in our elections and then pretend to care about this. China is the last place to get the truth, very sad so many want them involved in the 2020 election now.

 

[ArgentCy]

It is clearly hypocritical.

It doesn't mean past political statements from players or coaches were meaningless or without merrit, that's a stupid place to take it.

It's also hypocritical for people to celebrate China interfering in our elections and then pretend to care about this. China is the last place to get the truth, very sad so many want them involved in the 2020 election now.

Interfering or shining a light?

 

[HFCS]

Interfering or shining a light?

Exactly. So sad people trust China's opinion like you do.

 

[ArgentCy]

Exactly. So sad people trust China's opinion like you do.

I'm sorry, I can't comment any further because I have been censored. Just like the communist party loves to censor people they don't like.

 

[HFCS]

I'm sorry, I can't comment any further because I have been censored. Just like the communist party loves to censor people they don't like.

We'll let China have the final say on the truth like you asked for.

 

[Doc]

It's not hypocritical to for the NBA to allow players/coaches to voice their opinions on social issues in the U.S., but not China?

Is the NBA not allowing players/coaches to voice their opinions on China? The NBA has already come out and said the Rockets’ media relations person should not have shut down the question to Harden and Westbrook this morning.

 

[ArgentCy]

Is the NBA not allowing players/coaches to voice their opinions on China? The NBA has already come out and said the Rockets’ media relations person should not have shut down the question to Harden and Westbrook this morning.

Then why was the reporter shut down? Please, this is easily the NBA trying to do damage control but they don't want the public to know how much they have to do to appease China.

Also, I don't think China cares much about CF censorship.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Is the NBA not allowing players/coaches to voice their opinions on China? The NBA has already come out and said the Rockets’ media relations person should not have shut down the question to Harden and Westbrook this morning.

I think the NBA has lost any high ground it may have had with their original response.

 

[Doc]

Then why was the reporter shut down? Please, this is easily the NBA trying to do damage control but they don't want the public to know how much they have to do to appease China.

Also, I don't think China cares much about CF censorship.

The NBA doesn’t own the Rockets’ organization. They do have a lot of power in how the orgs are run (see Donald Sterling, All-Star game in Charlotte), but that was a Rockets’ employee making a choice that wasn’t necessarily in line with the stated values of the league.

 

[Doc]

I think the NBA has lost any high ground it may have had with their original response.

I think they should have definitely left out the regrettable part. Also, that first statement just got butchered in translation which made things quite a bit worse. The first statement was not good, and maybe it is the best representation of their true thoughts on the matter.