Nader arrested for OWI?

Some people don't...some people do. If they do is it still just a mistake?
If they learn then yes it is just a mistake. If he were to continue to do it then yes that is a big problem. This obviously isn't something he can just totally blow off, but it shouldn't really affect his basketball.
 
Are there tests you can administer on your own to discern alcohol level?
 
As someone who is dating a girl who's dad was hit and killed by a drunk driver, I have no respect for these criminals at all. I really hope he cleans up his act. Just disgraceful. There needs to be bigger punishments imo.

I think there should be a scale of punishments. A guy on the road blowing a .09 and a guy blowing a .25 are not equal. A friend of mine got one blowing a .09. He had had two beers at the time within about a half hour or so. He wasn't anything close to what I would consider dangerous. I understand your POV but everyone who has gotten an OWI wasn't a death waiting to happen.
 
Are there tests you can administer on your own to discern alcohol level?

I've always thought that if bars has breathalizers in them, you would cut down on drinking and driving. It would add a certain amount of reality to some people.
 
I think there should be a scale of punishments. A guy on the road blowing a .09 and a guy blowing a .25 are not equal. A friend of mine got one blowing a .09. He had had two beers at the time within about a half hour or so. He wasn't anything close to what I would consider dangerous. I understand your POV but everyone who has gotten an OWI wasn't a death waiting to happen.

no rational thinking on this board! The world needs to managed in absolutes! Every situation needs to be treated the same! So Mad because a chick that lets me get to second base is sensitve about it, otherwise, i probably wouldn't give a ****! Ahhhhhhhh!
 
I've always thought that if bars has breathalizers in them, you would cut down on drinking and driving. It would add a certain amount of reality to some people.


I have a job that if we get DUI's we lose our job, so I have a car service my company pays for, but they also sent us breathlizer things for our Iphones. I don't trust them, but they could probably help.
 
I've always thought that if bars has breathalizers in them, you would cut down on drinking and driving. It would add a certain amount of reality to some people.
If I had those in bars while in college, I would've turn into a competition to see who could blow the highest.
 
I think there should be a scale of punishments. A guy on the road blowing a .09 and a guy blowing a .25 are not equal. A friend of mine got one blowing a .09. He had had two beers at the time within about a half hour or so. He wasn't anything close to what I would consider dangerous. I understand your POV but everyone who has gotten an OWI wasn't a death waiting to happen.

Not sure I agree. Have to have a cutoff. I know it may sound extreme, but science would say that your friend at .09 would have delayed reaction....it may be very slight, but if that slight delay kills someone, it matters.

I guess I'd be on with a VERY harsh punishment if it's anything above .2 (like a ban on having a license) because that is clearly not being smart.

Off subject, but don't get me started on distracted driving. That is scary to me.
 
Absolutely everyone is different. Which is why i hate the across-the-board .08 litmus test.

True. Some people hold it better than others. I don't drink very often, so it takes very little to affect my judgement.

Problem is, without some sort of empirical value assigned, it becomes a case of "he said, he said" between officer and driver. Since the person has long since sobered up, the court would only be able to go on the observations of the officer (which are subjective in the first place). I can get pretty giddy when I'm exhausted...bloodshot eyes, the whole thing. People have thought I was drunk when I haven't had a drop.
 
Nope, just sick and tired of seeing these troublemakers getting off for good behavior on vehicular homicide after only serving a a year or two in jail when they know full well their actions and negligence cost someone else's life. If you think that is ok because they just made a silly mistake resulting in someone being killed....but don't worry it was just a silly mistake!!!! Everyone does it!!! they're positive people!!! they didn't mean to kill that person!!! That argument is pathetic and full of BS. Good thing you aren't the judge or jury or people would probably never be charged with these types of crimes.

I been out several times, but know better not to drive after drinking. Case in point last week I spent more than I should of at paddys, mickeys, ajs, etc. I also used a DD or a taxi these nights.

Nothing against Nader btw....just hope he takes this life lesson seriously and learns from it and never does it again. That night could of ended completely differently. I expect him and Hoiberg to work on things and turn him into grown man.

You are obviously a kid who thinks that everyone that is out drinking and driving is having 20 drinks. Probably more people under the age of 25 should be making better choices when they go out, but you should wait until you grow up and enter the real world before calling everyone a criminal that gets an OWI.

What about old people and people texting, they are just as bad if not worse.

And when your girlfriend dumps you, you will probably won't fight this hard for the cause.
 
Not sure I agree. Have to have a cutoff. I know it may sound extreme, but science would say that your friend at .09 would have delayed reaction....it may be very slight, but if that slight delay kills someone, it matters.

I guess I'd be on with a VERY harsh punishment if it's anything above .2 (like a ban on having a license) because that is clearly not being smart.

Off subject, but don't get me started on distracted driving. That is scary to me.

So is my reaction at .09 much different than .08. I highly, highly doubt it but the difference in what happens to my life is incredibly different. Say someone causes an accident at .07 and I get pulled over for going 57 in a 55 (this has happened to me at 2 in the morning after giving a couple people rides home, no OWI) and blow .09, why am I the one with a more severe punishment?
 
Not sure I agree. Have to have a cutoff. I know it may sound extreme, but science would say that your friend at .09 would have delayed reaction....it may be very slight, but if that slight delay kills someone, it matters.

I guess I'd be on with a VERY harsh punishment if it's anything above .2 (like a ban on having a license) because that is clearly not being smart.

Off subject, but don't get me started on distracted driving. That is scary to me.

I fear distracted drivers more than drunk drivers tbh. It's possible to tell when your driving near a drunk driver, but a distracted driver is more difficult. To tell if someone is distracted driving you have to look into their car or watch them, which could cause you to become distracted too. Someone could go from normal driving to whipping out their phone and rear ending you at a stop light at full speed or not seeing a red light and flying through an intersection while trying pick something up from the floor. At least if you see a drunk driver on the road you can try to get behind them or stay back a little ways, with distracted drivers they just sorta come out of nowhere.
 
Nope, just sick and tired of seeing these troublemakers getting off for good behavior on vehicular homicide after only serving a a year or two in jail when they know full well their actions and negligence cost someone else's life. If you think that is ok because they just made a silly mistake resulting in someone being killed....but don't worry it was just a silly mistake!!!! Everyone does it!!! they're positive people!!! they didn't mean to kill that person!!! That argument is pathetic and full of BS. Good thing you aren't the judge or jury or people would probably never be charged with these types of crimes.

I been out several times, but know better not to drive after drinking. Case in point last week I spent more than I should of at paddys, mickeys, ajs, etc. I also used a DD or a taxi these nights.

Nothing against Nader btw....just hope he takes this life lesson seriously and learns from it and never does it again. That night could of ended completely differently. I expect him and Hoiberg to work on things and turn him into grown man.

I think we can all agree there is a huge difference between vehicular homicide and getting an OWI.
 
Some people don't...some people do. If they do is it still just a mistake?

People that kill someone should be punished accordingly. People who have a few drinks, drive home and get arrested for that (rather than causing an accident that killed someone) should also be punished accordingly. The two crimes are way different.
 

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