More "Under the Radar" Names

besserheimerphat

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I leveraged an analysis I saw from a year ago (here) that looked at Rivals recruiting rankings compared to the Massey Composite Ranking. This allowed them to see which programs were performing above/at/below their relative talent level. Since they posted their raw data, I sliced it a little differently by looking at year-to-year results rather than a 5 year average. Once I identified programs that had good years (high Massey ranking) with less talent (low Rivals ranking), I looked for programs that had 2+ years. From those programs and seasons, I looked at the head coaches and coordinators to see where they are now and how they've done. I narrowed it down to 6 guys who have demonstrated an ability to coach up talent over multiple seasons. In no particular order:


  1. Brian Harsin, HC at Boise State - coached at Boise State under Dan Hawkins and Chris Peterson, working up to OC. Was the OC for the Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma. Was a co-OC at Texas under Mack Brown (with Major Applewhite), then HC at Arkansas State for one year following Gus Malzahn, before taking over at Boise State.
  2. Dave Doeren, HC at NC State - has engineered the biggest one-year turnaround in the country at NC State, from 3-9 his first year to 8-5 his second year. They're currently 7-4 with one game to go in his third season. Prior to that was HC at Norther Illinois for two years (MAC champs both years), and was DC at Wisconsin for 5 years. Grew up in KC and played/coached at Drake. ISU would be a step down though.
  3. Ivin Jasper, OC at Navy - if you want triple-option guru... He's been at Navy for 16 years, working under both Ken Niumatalolo and Paul Johnson (OC for past 8 years, QB coach for past 14 years).
  4. Willie Taggart, HC at USF - has improved USF in each of his three seasons as HC (2-10, 4-8, currently 7-4). Had a similar turn around at Western Kentucky from 2010 - 2012 (2-10, 7-5, 7-6), taking WKU to it's first ever bowl game. WKU had moved from 1-AA to FBS in 2009. Previously a RB coach for Jim Harbaugh's Stanford teams.
  5. Matt Wells, HC at Utah State - led a potent offense at USU as OC/QB coach for two years before being promoted to HC two years ago when Gary Anderson left for Wisconsin. Prior to that he bounced around as position coach at New Mexico and Louisville, and spent 4 years at Tulsa on Steve Kragthorpe's staff. USU is his alma mater though.
  6. Dave Schramm, OC at Fresno State - produced highly ranked offenses at Fresno State and at Utah (he was co-OC when #10 Utah beat us 68-27).
 
I like the sound of all these coaches more than most of the names flying around here. If I wanted to be obstinate, and apparently I do, I'd say settle for no less than Les Miles or John Gruden. Of your list I like Matt Wells. I still feel like any HC that is competent could win here, we really need a recruiter. Wells' brother is rumored to be a BA recruiter, otherwise Tony Alford is my favorite, minus Chucky and Miles of course.
 
I didn't know Doeren played at Drake. Leath's strongest ties beyond ISU are to NC State. That would be a pretty splashy hire relative to ISU football's perception.

He makes $2.2 million a year through 2019. So a competitive offer would be at least something like $13 million over 5 years.

I very much doubt he would make the move, but with the Iowa connection and the Leath connection I wouldn't be shocked if some feelers were exchanged.
 
Appreciate the "moneyball" approach to getting a statistical basis for a potential hire. Good job!
 
Someone who reminds me of Doeren and Harsin that no one has mentioned is Blake Anderson at Arkasas State. He's the coach there after Hugh Freeze, Gus and Harsin. Good recruiter with JUCO ties. Runs an offense that fits our personnel. 3 million buyout though.
 
Not a fan of the option. However, if anyone on that list were interested, get it done JP. We have to open up the checkbook the penalty for not being relevant at the next realignment could be relegation.
 
Heimerphat - work your magic and see how some of the front runners compare to your list, like the Georgia Southern coach. Kind of intrigued with his power run offense. Nice job.
 
I was going to mention Harsin a couple days ago but he is a Boise guy and I see him staying there.
 
Going from NC State to ISU is a step backwards.

I agree, but so was Michigan basketball to Iowa State in 1980. Money talks, and I wouldn't be shocked if we put something together that at least made him listen... and go back to the NCSU AD for a contract bump.
 
I am intrigued by the Wells guy. He would at least know what he is getting into.
 
I agree, but so was Michigan basketball to Iowa State in 1980. Money talks, and I wouldn't be shocked if we put something together that at least made him listen... and go back to the NCSU AD for a contract bump.

For the 1000th time, the money isn't nearly as bad as it was in 1980. Johnny Orr was criminally underpaid. No one is underpaid like that now.
 
I agree, but so was Michigan basketball to Iowa State in 1980. Money talks, and I wouldn't be shocked if we put something together that at least made him listen... and go back to the NCSU AD for a contract bump.

Which begs the question, who is more serious about Football? A Big 12 team or a team in the ACC? I wouldn't mind finding out.
 

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