Not a good look when it's the coach's weird tendencies that cause kids to decommit.
Minnesota & Fleck
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Oh no I'm saying that I do know that there's been stories about him being a weird guy and has weird recruiting tactics. Not 100% sure if the reason for some kids decommitting were because of those things though.
didn't he inherit a bowl winning team, also? I know there's more to it than that, but the state of the programs were a bit different as well.
This is exactly why it's put up or shut up this year for Fleck. With their weak schedule this year they need to contend for the West or it just isn't going to happen.
Kids aren't decomitting because Fleck is weird, they are decomitting because he really pressure kids for a verbal. Don't get too hung up on how he recruits, Iowa fans bad moth Fleck like crazy because he has a different style that doesn't fit the "right Way" mold. The guy has gotten some talent there, now they need show real improvement.
The word from guys that have been on recruiting trips to Minnesota is that, at the end of the visit, Fleck pulls them into a room and REALLY presses for a commitment, often without parents present. In some cases, guys have given them a "yeah whatever" type of commitment, knowing they can then back out if/when something better comes along. The result is that they have had a lot of decommits. According to 247, they had an amazing 13 in the 2017 class, although that was probably due to coaching transition and fairly common as they were probably the previous staff's recruits. But they've had 8 in each of Fleck's classes (2018 and 2019) as well, which is pretty high.
Yeah I didn't necessarily mean weird tendencies I should've put weird recruiting tactics but I guess that wouldn't mean kids would be decommitting it'd mean they wouldn't be committing at all. However I do fully agree that this is Fleck's year to prove he's legit. Third year in with a schedule that lines up perfectly for some success. I would say there are 6 games you should sharpie in a W. To be what he says he is and why he was brought in there though, he's going to have to snag an extra win or two; @ Iowa, Nebraska, @ Purdue, Wisconsin, @ Northwestern, Penn State. None of those teams listed are going to be unbelievable this year either, so getting one win from that list should not be impossible.
While that is true, he did come in on the heels of the rape case at Minnesota, which led to a lot of turnover and divide of players. If Tracy Claeys was only judged on what happened on the field, Fleck would not be there.
Minnesota can't claim jack **** until they beat a ranked team again. This November will mark 5 years since that last happened for them.
I think most of you are ignoring what Minnesota looked like after Fleck dumped his d-coordinator Smith last year and replaced him with Rossi. The last four games were pretty impressive...
I'm in the Twin Cities, and, since the day he was hired, I've referred to him as "Son of Brewster" and "PT (as in Barnum) Fleck". I'd rank him right there with Brewster when it comes to slinging the BS, but, to his credit, Fleck has actually showed some success as a head coach (@ WMU). Brewster didn't have that.
While I can't imagine how a recruit or his parents can fall for the ELITE BS he spews, he does alright recruiting. If he's successful, he won't be at the U of M for long, as he's not a stick-around type of guy. I wouldn't want to have to listen to him, either...
They beat a 6-7 spotty Purdue team, lost to a pretty good Northwestern team, beat an 8-5 Wisconsin team which was the game they benched Hornibrook finally (threw 3 terrible interceptions), and then they beat a very one dimensional 7-6 Georgia Tech team who just lost their head coach.
This. They also bad mouth our recruiting as too aggressive in offerings so I don't really give a crap what Hawk fan impressions are.
I believe they will make a big step up this year. His recruiting has been good, his recruits are rising up to the two deeps, he has two young quarterbacks, and his defense should be really solid with Winfield returning. Definitely a program looking to challenge for a championship game appearance going forward and one that I believe is on the cusp of good things.
Yeah, I knew there was some **** that happened in the end of that "era", didn't want to speculate so I just stated what I knew lol.
His 3 classes that have signed LOI's were ranked 12th, 7th and 10th in the B1G.