MESS named OC

If Mess can adjust when faced with adversity on the field and can utilitize the talent we have in a creative way to make it work, im all for it.
 
I think you have to trust CPR on this. He wants to win more than anyone. If he thinks Messingham is the right guy for his offense, then he would be in a position to know since he's worked with him closely.
 
Good for him. I like the hire and had a hunch that CPR would hire from within all along. He deserves a shot to prove himself in a larger role. It allows for the players to not skip a beat in terms of understanding the offense.
 
I agree. I think it's a good hire.

We know the terminology and system will stay the same which is better for the players.

The one thing people need to remember is just because the system stays the same doesn't mean the play calling will. For all we know Mess could be 10 times as aggressive as Herman was with his play calls. Just because the offensive terminology and sets will be the same doesn't mean it will be the same results as under Herman.

Exactly, just because he worked under Herman doesn't mean he agreed with all Hermans play calling. When I played I was very vocal on the sidelines about playcalling (offensive and defensive) got me some bad looks from coaches but oh well.
 
I talked with Mess a bit at last year's recruiting party, and must say I'm a fan. Down to earth guy who is very passionate about this team, just like CPR. I could tell he is ALL IN, & I fully support this decision.
 
Please oh please have at least a few plays our quarterbacks can go under center..... Not a lot, but some!!.... Thanks in advance coach mess
 
I agree. I think it's a good hire.

We know the terminology and system will stay the same which is better for the players.

The one thing people need to remember is just because the system stays the same doesn't mean the play calling will. For all we know Mess could be 10 times as aggressive as Herman was with his play calls. Just because the offensive terminology and sets will be the same doesn't mean it will be the same results as under Herman.

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

The other thing I'd add is that WRs improved quite a bit from last year to this year. The seniors were still dropping balls, but guys were getting open much more frequently and actually getting the fabled YAC.
 
I like it. Special teams, tight ends, and receivers all improved under his watch and he's a known quantity to the players. He strikes me as a sharp guy that's seen a lot in his day. I think he'll adjust better on the fly than Hermann did and will be a better game planner overall.

And ultimately, I trust CPR so if it's good enough for him, it's more than good enough for me.
 
Someone mentioned this wasn't a sexy hire, but I'm fine with that. I trust Rhoads.

We have a larger pool of money but you also don't want to constantly make outside hires. If you don't promote from within from time to time then what is the incentive for coaches to stick around?

This is what I was thinking as well. By hiring from within it sets a tone that if you put in your time and are successful you will have the opportunity to move up. Sets the tone for some good coaches who are younger or from smaller schools to come here as position coaches and be willing to stay. One thing that gets looked over here all the time is that there are some great position coaches in the lower levels of college football, and a system like this is a great way to attract them to ISU. They may never become a coordinator at ISU but the option is there, and with enough time and success it will open them up to other coordinator jobs at other schools.

This is how the Hayden Fry coaching tree was created that we all heard so much about for so many years. Time to start the Paul Rhoads coaching tree.
 
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This guy will be so good he'll leave for a head coaching job after next season.

Just trying to counteract some of the nervous nellie posts.
 
I actually really like the hire. He has proven himself to the ISU staff and CPR the 4 years he has been here. Also like the fact he is an Iowa Boy (resume includes coaching and playing at many Iowa Schools). If he turns out to be a diamond in the rough, we could have a good OC for many years. CPR wants staff that is ALL-IN and I believe he has gotten one in Messingham. Not to mention he has signed some decent commits already for 2012 (Barkley Hill, Charles Rogers, and Duaron WIlliams), showing he has decent recruiting ability.
 
I was wondering since it was taking so long if CPR was looking to poach a bowl school for one of their coaches. Either couldn't pay enough, they weren't interested or Messingham was the best option (I like to think it's the latter). At least he will be well motivated to succeed, knows the players and skill sets they each have. He did do a lot of good things with the special teams and some of the receivers. I would have to think the offense "system" will stay pretty similar since he doesn't have an offense he would be bringing in from somewhere else. Terminology should be consistent, which will be huge, so they don't have to re-think on play changes.
 
I wasn't very excited when I first heard this, but after reading through the thread, I have to admit, I'm feeling more positive about it. Granted, we are not going to keep and OC here forever if he is doing well, but I like the idea that the guy has been with our program and therefore he has some connections to the players and the staff. In the end, it's another one of those hopes that if he does well, it takes the perfect oppoutunity for him instead of just a few more bucks to get him to move on to another program. When you are able to promote from within and feel conifident about it, it means you are building the program right. Only time will tell, but I have faith in CPR.
 

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