Maybe next year, Hawkeyes.
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What I find funny is Miller poo pooing the rumors of 16-21 failed drug tests. miller clearly states that didn't happen because only djk and robinson were suspended. Thing is, more players could have tested positive and just received counseling. No one knows.
That is indictive of a bad environment. Whether that be IC, or the football program...who knows but since it happens at a greater rate with football players, one might conclude that there is a problem.
It will be interesting to see if the 21 only bars help. One would think it would reduce the drinking arrests as minors/drinkers won't be congregated and it will be harder for the [police to patrol the whole city rather than one small area. Less drinking/violence at the ped mall and more at houses and apartments.
It might be a little of both, but the environment in Iowa City is definitely a factor. The binge drinking rate at the U of I is either among, or is the highest in the nation (Mayor Hayek gave the numbers a couple months ago, and I don't remember them exactly). I'd have to see a lot more numbers, but I would guess that there are more of the alcohol arrests here than in most other college towns (that's just a guess, though).
And I know Miller poo poos a lot. Though in that case, there wasn't any evidence to suggest that there were mass testing/failed tests. There was only evidence that players could have gotten around their tests. Those aren't one and the same.
You might find it unlikely that there was no extra testing and subsequent failures. But there's not any evidence to back that up.
Whereas say, JFK's assassination DOES have evidence to suggest that Oswald was either framed or didn't work alone. Such as the fact that it is physically impossible for the back of JFK's head to get blown off from where Oswald was shooting from. He'd have to be shot from the front (gee, the grassy knoll was in front of him).
One conspiracy theory has evidence to support it, and the other doesn't.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't have had a press confernce. I just found if funny that the first press release and your talking heads were all saying that 16-21 was crazy. That it was just one bad egg. DJK was the end of it and they were going to tighten up the monitoring and retest all these athletes. not even 2 weeks later bingo bye bye adam. (Much respect on the absolute absurdity of the timing by the way) Now its 16-21 is crazy its only TWO bad eggs.
Well, you can understand our skepticism after the last line we were fed. Maybe 16-21 is crazy, but it has neither been confirmed or disproved. Its HIPAA blah blah blah. I just laugh when they say that there is no way 16-21 players failed. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. But we were told it was only 1 bad egg before and that was obviously false. Not saying there were 16 players just not buying that there is no way, like Millers propaganda machine likes to spew.
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Fair enough. I don't deny the possibility that there were more. But there's no way to prove it, no solid evidence to suggest that many were cheating the test. It's possible, but to talk like many players did fail is ridiculous.
Actually, if you paid any attention at all you would realize that the "entire" student body has a high rate of alcohol related incidents...it's not isolated to athletes. In case you didn't know Iowa City changed the legal age to be in bars after 10pm to 21 when it used to be 19 and even 18 before that.
So, I think Iowa has a lot of "decent" students that come to Iowa and end up getting a alcohol related ticket. The chances in Iowa City have been much higher than the average school.
OK, I think you've got a point here. Iowa is an attractive school for sloppy drunks, and the evidence of this is their higher-than-average rate of alcohol-related incidents.
Well, hell. How can I argue with SCIENCE?
(and the "our bars used to be under-21" excuse? Played out. You're like the Cubs; blaming their suckiness on some dude with a goat from back in the 40's.)
Seriously...Iowa City has like 60 bars in a 10 block radius. Ames and Iowa City are in no way comparable and never have been when it comes to downtown drinking establishments. I have been out of school at Iowa for about 8 yrs now and over the past 8 yrs the cops in Iowa City have definitely put the smack down compared to what they used to do.
I'm not saying the behavior is acceptable, I'm just stating that the high # of alcohol related arrests with athletes is a reflection of the entire student body and the community of Iowa City in itself. Check out the Press Citizen sometime and see how many people are arrested from small towns surrounding Iowa City. It's just a place that gets out of control on weekends.
The 21 ordinance should help...it definitely can't hurt
No the post wasn't over my head. He plead guilty last September to reckless driving. As you can see here: The State News :: Lucious pleads guilty to reckless driving.
And tm why don't you go draw me a picture weirdo.
What makes me a weirdo? The fact that I can get my points across without p*ssing people off around here? I admit, I got skills :yes:
Seriously, go back and read the post in question. It made no sense.
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Of course there is crickets in here, everyone's too busy being hypocrites in the football board.
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Thank you man, I don't like people getting confused.
I did you a favor and added two commas for you. Not to mention I spelled out the number two, instead of using the numerical version.