I went again to 3D on Sunday and I have to say it and surprisingly the 3D landed better than the first time around.
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Just got back from seeing Love and Thunder.
Maybe the only MCU movie where I don’t know how I feel. Didn’t love it nor hate it. I think I liked it, but then I don’t know why I think I liked it.
This for me was WAY too much Taika being Taika. Felt like two different movies at times.
Final thought is Christian Bale is so good, and it’s a crime they used Gorr in this movie since Taika was directing it. Not nearly dark enough and not enough screen time and development. If you’ve never read the comics Gorr is a part of, the dude is one scary badass. For what Bale was given he nailed it because his Gorr was creepy, sinister and terrifying in certain scenes.
Have to give this another watch, but I don’t know how I feel exactly.
Maybe the only MCU movie where I don’t know how I feel. Didn’t love it nor hate it. I think I liked it, but then I don’t know why I think I liked it.
This for me was WAY too much Taika being Taika. Felt like two different movies at times.
Final thought is Christian Bale is so good, and it’s a crime they used Gorr in this movie since Taika was directing it. Not nearly dark enough and not enough screen time and development. If you’ve never read the comics Gorr is a part of, the dude is one scary badass. For what Bale was given he nailed it because his Gorr was creepy, sinister and terrifying in certain scenes.
Have to give this another watch, but I don’t know how I feel exactly.
If Bale wasn’t in that movie and they had a lighter feeling bad guy, that movie would of felt way too slapdick and stupid and not grounded at all.
I think that was a common complaint, including from my 18 yo. If you've got a guy who's name is The God Butcher, maybe you should show him butchering more gods.
To me it would have made more sense to introduce Hercules fully in this one. Make their rivalry the centerpiece and have it be more of rom com love triangle turned buddy cop film in which they all team up to defeat some lesser threat, then turn things super serious right at the end. Have them find some slain gods and wonder who could have done this. Then you do a second film (probably with a different director) that gets much more serious dealing with Gorr and Jane's cancer. There could still be humor in the second film but it would be wielded more as a scalpel than a hammer.
The problem was it was that slapstick and stupid regardless of what they did do with Gorr and completely wasted a great villain.
CycloneErik
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Even just a few moments to explain why Gorr went beyond his rage at the first ones would have gone a long ways. Heck, I'm sure most of us were cheering him on with the first kill.
Bale was (I won't say upset maybe disappointed) that they kiboshed a scream he developed for the character that he thought really made things and they worried carried it too far.
He was so, so good and yet they held him back.
He was so, so good and yet they held him back.
Anybody seen the last episode of Ms Marvel yet? No idea how good the episode is, but I have seen some headlines saying it turns the MCU on its head, which is a pretty big statement. Maybe they are overstating things, maybe not I guess.
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Not yet. The one headline I saw said it cracks the lid on where things are going for the MCU. I did see that it has a 50 minute run time which I think makes it the longest of the series.
I still need to watch last week's episode, but I'm anxious to get caught up and watch the finale. It may not be the best thing I've seen, but it's still kinda fun.
They kind of lost me when they went to Pakistan. The best thing about the show was her Dad, Bruno, and Nakia. Then they are completely out of the show for 2 episodes. Unreal.
I think going there was fine, but I agree at sidelining 3 characters, especially right after one of them found out her secret, was weird. Clearly they needed more episodes to do this right and they just didn't get them.
I would excuse this if it wasn't something that happens every time. EVERY TIME they bite off more stuff than they can chew in 6 episodes and do some stupid stuff that doesn't need to happen. They set up that her grandma doesn't leave Pakistan earlier in saying she didn't even go to her mom's wedding. You know what would work really well? Have her call her back and tell her that they both saw the train and it was so important that she is coming to America. The stakes are established - this is something more important than her daughter's wedding. You'd get all of the characters you've already set up and people genuinely like - you'd get some potentially good comedy with the Dad/mother-in-law, etc.
There are things I honestly really, really like in every MCU TV show. I've not necessarily regretted watching any of them. But every freaking time, they do something like this that doesn't need to happen and it takes what could be a good or very good show and makes it mediocre.
I love Feige, but if I'm being honest I think he fundamentally misunderstands what makes a good TV show. Good TV shows establish good characters and you settle into their world. They did that in the first few good but imperfect episodes of Ms. Marvel. Then they completely uproot them right away, take away those characters we've been trained to invest in over decades of TV watching, and move them around.
There is a reason Jim didn't leave Scranton in The Office until like season 4, not episode 4, and then came back ASAP. Sorry for my rant but these characters deserve better and these shows should be better.
Just watched Ep 6. Overall, it was fine. They still didn't do a good job of making the bad guys be anything more than just a government agency doing government agency things.
So looks like they are going to make her be a mutant. Also still not sure what was going on with the post-credit scene. Not sure if the bangle somehow linked to Carol Danvers powers which were derived from the space stone and caused them to swap places or what. Guess we'll fine out when The Marvels releases.
I’ll just say this. Not one, but two post credit screens to blow any Marvel/MCU fan’s mind.
Carry on.
