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Iron Fist trailer


I'm liking that trailer so far. Still can't same I'm completely sold on Finn Jones in the role of Iron Fist, but I'm warming to it. We'll see. I'll give him a fair shake. My guess is that he might end up being like Charlie Cox as Daredevil for me as I wasn't crazy about him at first and he still isn't who I fully picture as Daredevil, but overall, I think he does good enough to the point where I do like him.
 
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spid...ws-about-those-spider-man-spinoffs-in-a145855

These promised Sony Spider-Man spin-offs will be something to keep an eye on as nobody really knows quite yet what, how and where these will occur. Pre-Marvel/Sony deal, Sony's original plan was to essentially create their own Spider-Man shared universe after the conclusion of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 with some movies like a Venom and Sinister Six movie. However, after The Amazing Spider-Man 2 flopped, Sony shifted gears and created the deal with Marvel to start over with Spidey in the MCU. With that said, after the deal, many people thought most of those other spin-off plans were done for. Well, according to this article, I guess not. Just nobody knows what these will even look like. Will they be a part of the MCU? Will they just be on the side in their own universe? Will they include the MCU Spider-Man we just saw in Civil War, or will they not include Spidey at all? I'd say based on what I've seen so far, my guess is that they will NOT include Spider-Man at all and that they will stand on their own. However, if this is the case, I think this could be a terrible idea for Sony. What is really the point of a Spider-Man universe without Spider-Man???
 
http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/marvel-cinematic-universe.209434/page-32#post-5382666

Scarlett Johansson gave a recent interview talking a lot about the possibility of a future Black Widow solo movie. While I know there are a few comments out there that have been said by different people that almost make it sound like a certainty, I'd say there is way more info out there, including this article, saying it is far from a done deal. Ultimately, I just think it is on a Marvel want-to-do list, especially with the pressure to add more gender and racial diversity to their heroes, but they just still don't know how, if or when it could happen. I also wouldn't rule out something like it ending up being a Netflix series, which would be great. Jeremy Renner has already gone on record saying he would be up for a Hawkeye Netflix series, which would work perfect to combine them together in telling Black Widow's rich MCU history and how he helped convert her over from bad to good. There is already an official MCU tie-in Black Widow comic out there that tells some of that history, but not close to all of it. That comic was almost maybe my favorite comic of all the official MCU tie-in comics. The Ant-Man prequel one that told an old early days Hank Pym as Ant-Man mission was also pretty awesome as well. Love the elaboration on everything that happened between The First Avenger and Iron Man. This was part of what made Agent Carter so good, even though they made some major mistakes in some of the directions they took, particularly in Season 2.
 
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I also finally just finished Luke Cage, so I figured I'd post my usual review with my thoughts to those interested. Please note, this review is relatively spoilery, so please avoid if you haven't finished the series yourself.

Overall, I liked Luke Cage, but really wasn't crazy about it at all. In my mind, it was by far the worst of the MCU Netflix series so far, even though it had some really great things I loved in it at times. This is really too bad beings how it is documented in this thread itself how much I LOVED this series by about the end of episode 4. However, like many of the other Netflix series, it lost its way quite a bit in the middle through poor story arcs combined with poor pacing, and even more so in this Netflix MCU series than others and in more episodes. However, there was still a few middle episodes I liked. (Spoiler Alert) For instance, part of me really liked the big twist in the middle with Cottonmouth, even though I really liked that character, because I thought that twist added a bunch of new potential to the rest of the series. However, the bad part was that in the end, they didn't do a great job of finding a new good direction to go that was better than the last, and a lot of that was because they were essentially replacing one great villain (Cottonmouth) with one okay one (Mariah Dillard) and one pretty bad one (Diamondback). I also didn't like some of the weird arcs they took with Misty Knight's character at the same time. One other big letdown of the series was its action sequences and how boring and poorly done they were. I get it that Luke Cage is a brawler, so the choreography and style isn't going to be as cool as that of a very martial arts skilled Daredevil, but I still thought they could have done A LOT better than they did, and it got worse as the series went on. In fact, I'd call the action sequences nearly AOS season 1 bad, but maybe not quire Agent May AOS bad ;-). Don't even get me started on how bad that Diamondback vs Luke Cage final battle was, not to mention how ridiculous Diamondback's costume and powers were. So so stupid. Almost like amateur hour stupid. Maybe part of their problem too was that they are obviously giving these Netflix series very small budgets by way of special effects and it is becoming more and more noticeable. Shoot, you can tell that AOS has to get a bigger budget than these shows do. Overall, these are big popular shows for Marvel and Netflix, so don't skimp!!! These shows budgets should nearly be on par with Game of Thrones. Nevertheless, I've been pretty hard on this series so far, so I'm going to list some of the many things I DID like about it. To start, I loved the whole musical emphasis they took throughout where most of it hit really well and in a really cool way. I may be alone, but I even loved that Method Man stuff, which helped to end the series in a slight uptick. One other thing I liked mostly was how much the series tried to hit home with what is socially impacting our country right now. Sometimes it was slightly too heavy handed, but overall, there was some great things to take away. Lastly, I still liked quite a few of the characters, which bodes really well for going forward. I still like Mike Colter as Luke Cage. I actually really loved Cottonmouth, even though he didn't end up quite on par with Kingpin or Killgrave. Misty Knight was also great as well even despite the writers taking her on some pretty stupid character arcs, so if you just remember the beginning and end for her, she was awesome. Claire Temple was also very good like always, even though I felt her inclusion in everything was a bit shoehorned. Lastly, many of the supporting characters like Pops, Shades, Bobby Fish, and Detective Scarfe were all very good as well.

Again, in the end, I still really enjoyed this series, but can't help but walk away a little disappointed and also think that we are taking more of a step back with this series than a step forward. Nevertheless, despite all the downfalls, there was enough good things to pull out of this, particularly the characters themselves where there shouldn't be any collateral damage going forward. Marvel, just learn from this and take that moving forward. Can't wait for Iron Fist, but you better step it up both with fight choreographers as well as special effects budgets. Also, maybe consider dropping these series down from 13 episodes to around 8, or maybe even less with someone like the Punisher solo series. Shoot, make that one only like 3 or 4 episodes.
 
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I just finished Luke Cage yesterday and I thought it was great. I would probably rank it 4th in the Marvel Netflix shows:
1. Jessica Jones
2. Daredevil S1
3. Daredevil S2
4. Luke Cage

I think I liked it a lot more than most fans, but I understand most of the criticism. I think the writers were trying to draw parallels between Luke Cage/Diamondback and Cottonmouth/Mariah and just didn't execute. I also thought that some of the flashback sequences were really weak and inconsistent - the episode with Seagate prison should have completely been a flashback, except for the first and last 5 minutes. There was a lot of unnecessary jumping back to the present for no reason. There were also some interesting flashbacks towards the end of the season that featured some really unique editing/camera tricks, but the significance of those flashbacks almost made Luke Cage look like an idiot rather more than a sympathetic figure.

The soundtrack is unbelievable and each song really compliments the episode well. I'm sure that a S2 will be greelit and that is getting me excited as there is still a lot to explore. I think Alfre Woodward was a great casting choice as Mariah (although the writing at times was a little weak) but I think she could really stand out in S2. According to Netflix they only want to have 2 shows a year, so we may have to wait until 2019 for Luke Cage S2 (2017 - Iron Fist & Defenders, 2018 - JJ S2 and DD S3).
This is how I rank them as well. I loved the black culture of Harlem being the focus of the series but there was a few parts here and there that pulled me out. The music was amazing and Cottonmouth was my favorite character of the series.
I can't wait for the punisher series as he was my favorite character Netflix has portrayed so far. Penny and Dime mothaf**kas
 
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The addition of Diamondback was just a headscratcher. I honestly thought he was going to turn out to be the Kingpin, which would have not only been an awesome reveal, but would have helped merge Luke Cage into the DareDevil storyline. Perhaps the idea of having the Kingpin as the villain was either too obvious or it was counterproductive to the tone of the show having a white villain in a show focused on setting up a narrative that is driven primarily with minority characters. I think Diamondback must have been two characters that they merged into one villain for the season which ended up being a huge problem. The "business" version of Diamondback was much more manipulative and sneaky, but the "physical" version was far different and honestly didn't look stable enough to come up with that strategy of arming the police and the streets with "Judas Bullets" and Hammertech weapons.
 
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Here are some links to additional Doctor Strange Reviews, along with an excerpt from each article:

Variety: http://variety.com/2016/film/reviews/doctor-strange-review-marvel-studios-1201895862/

Generally speaking, there’s less room for directors to experiment when introducing new heroes, and yet Doctor Strange’s tangential standing within the Marvel canon allows a welcome degree of freedom, while the supernatural dimension of his gifts permits filmmaker Scott Derrickson to bend the rules a bit more than his peers — not enough, some would argue. Like “Spider-Man” director Sam Raimi, Derrickson hails from the world of schlock horror, where he made such seat-jumpers as “The Exorcism of Emily Rose” and “Sinister,” and here, he transitions smoothly to a far bigger canvas (so big that Imax audiences will benefit from more than an hour of footage captured on the company’s large-format digital cameras).

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...batch-marvel-eyepoppingly-freaky-extravaganza

I’m a massive sucker for teacher-pupil “learning” scenes that combine enigmatic quietness with a highly skilled martial arts. Swinton’s outrageously watchable scenes with Cumberbatch reminded me in the best possible way of Caine’s classic pronouncement in Kung Fu: “You think wisdom is a flower for you to pluck. It is amountain and it must be climbed.” It also called to mind Bruce Lee’s great scene in Enter the Dragon with a cowering teenage pupil who, after having duly received the master’s smackdown, is told: “We need emotional content. Not anger!”

Den of Geek: http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/doctor-strange/259470/doctor-strange-review

The cast, one of Marvel’s finest, sells all this with aplomb: Cumberbatch’s aristocratic presence and simmering intelligence make him the perfect Strange; like Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man or Chris Evans as Captain America, it’s instantly difficult to see anyone else in the role. Swinton already seems like she’s from a different realm, so playing a thousand-year-old wizard isn’t much of a stretch; nevertheless she tackles it with serenity and a mischievous twinkle in her eye. Ejiofor and Benedict Wong as the librarian of Kamar-Taj bring the appropriate gravitas, and even though Marvel villains continue to lag behind the gold standard of Tom Hiddleston’s Loki, Mikkelsen manages to inject a little complexity and humor into his otherwise standard bad guy.

Finally, here is a link to Rotten Tomatoes where the film currently has a 100% rating:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/doctor_strange_2016/
 
I'm happy to see the fairly positive reviews so far for this movie, even if it isn't too much outside of a simple origin story. In the end, I think Marvel has things figured out where they will strike a healthy balance moving forward of origin/non-origin stories in order to not get too repetitive. In Doctor Strange's case, I'm not sure they could have done it any different. Now, with Spider-Man and Black Panther, those films will already be able to hit the ground running due to the legwork already done in Civil War. Also, one other big thing I took away from the reviews is how Marvel is obviously posturing Dr. Strange to pretty much be Tony Stark's replacement moving forward past Infinity Wars, not in an Iron Man sense, but in a personality sense. Ultimately, RDJ isn't getting any younger and his larger-than-life quips and personality will leave a gaping hole needing to be filled by something when he leaves. Sounds like the hope is that Dr. Strange will be that guy. I hope so too.
 
First "negative" review comes from Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...ange-review-the-sorcerer-subpar/#62617cee4214

I realize that comparing any comic book film to Green Lantern is a game of dangerous trollery, so for the record, I don’t hate Green Lantern. But that’s the comparison that sticks out in regards toDoctor Strange. It too offers unapologetic fantasy imagery within a painfully generic “chosen one accepts the call” origin story. When superhero pics are among the dominant forms of would-be live-action blockbuster, being a so-so “hero’s journey” origin story isn’t enough. It wasn’t enough in 2011 when Green Lantern compared so poorly to X-Men: First Class and Captain America: The First Avenger. Doctor Strange is MCU’s most conventional effort. It is arguably their first one that feels like “just a superhero movie.”
 
Now that I've got my full review out for Luke Cage Season 1, I figured it would be worth updating my full MCU rankings that I periodically do, so here goes. Spoiler alert: Luke Cage didn't rank very high, which you probably could have guessed based on my review. Again, still enjoyed it though. Also, as time has crept in, I've actually adjusted my rankings a bit as well. Lastly, for some fun, I text colored stuff out into tiers with black being upper tier, red being mid-tier, and blue being lower-tier MCU projects.
  1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – Thought this movie had the best drama and best writing and story line of all the movies. Its action sequences were probably only second to Civil War as well.
  2. Marvel’s The Avengers – Iconic way to pull everything together with the best villain in the MCU. The final battle was so epic and unlike anything we had ever seen up until that point.
  3. Captain America: Civil War - Most fun and one of the funniest movies on the list. Also produced the best action sequences, had some of the best character moments, and showcased the best balancing act of so many characters. Biggest downfall was having a very good, but not great story line, which kept it from topping my list.
  4. Iron Man – Epic way to start the Universe with an unbelievable star for a headliner. Never got into the Iron Monger villain though.
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy – Best space epic since the original Star Wars movies. Also was probably the funniest movie of the MCU so far.
  6. Marvel's Daredevil: Season 2 - The introduction of Jon Bernthal's Punisher in Season 2 was what truly made this season great and better than Season 2. Had a few pacing issues, but overall, the series only improved all the characters within it from Season 1, but I'm still so-so on all the Electra stuff. Still needs a few more crossovers, but had a few.
  7. Marvel’s Daredevil: Season 1 – Loved the street-level more-adult-themed tone of this show. Also contains probably the second best villain in the MCU. Being on Netflix is a great way to un-cuff all the normal problems of making a TV show for network viewing.
  8. Ant-Man - Had super-low expectations, but walked away pleasantly surprised. Yet another weak villain, but contained some great comedy with some great actors. Paul Rudd won me over when I once was really skeptical of him.
  9. Captain America: The First Avenger – Epic first-half of the movie with Cap’s origin story, but believe it or not, I found Red Skull a little underdeveloped. Loved the WWII time period aspect of this one.
  10. Marvel's Jessica Jones - Series filled with great actors, great drama, good diversity to what we are used to, and one of the best villains in the MCU (Kilgrave). Series suffered most from having probably 3-4 too many episodes, poor pacing, and not enough ties to the overall MCU.
  11. Iron Man 2 – Many will mock me, but I actually really enjoyed this movie and actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man 3. Make fun of me all you want, but I didn’t think Whiplash was that bad. I think this movie gets unfairly criticized.
  12. Avengers: Age of Ultron – Fun movie, but suffered from too much CGI action, too many characters, and too many storylines.
  13. Iron Man 3 – Don’t know what it is, but I just never really got into this one, and it probably had something to do with the big Mandarin villain twist towards the end. Also never really liked Killian either. Again, I surprisingly like Iron Man 2 better
  14. Thor – Don’t know what it is, but I just never got into this storyline or villains as much as the others. However, it is growing on me over time and I now like this more than Thor: The Dark World
  15. Marvel's Luke Cage: Season 1: Loved the music angle, loved Cottonmouth as the villain, loved the first 4 episodes. However, this was another Netflix series that really lost its way somewhere in the middle, and I really didn't care for any of the Diamondback stuff. Still enjoyed it, but definitely the worst Netflix series yet.
  16. Thor: The Dark World – Criticize me if you will, but I actually liked this movie more than probably most, but after re-watching it recently, it did fall some in my rankings. I now have the origin Thor above it.
  17. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 2 – Liked the less cheese and more serious tone than the first season. Also, loved the Inhuman’s storyline. Used to hate Skye, but now don’t mind her. This is definitely the best AOS season so far
  18. Marvel’s Agent Carter – Loved the period timepiece aspect of this. Great show.
  19. The Incredible Hulk – Good movie, but not great. Never was into Norton for the role or the look they gave theHulk, so I was super glad when the switch was made and they remade the Hulk's appearance.
  20. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 1 – Struggled hardcore in the first half-dozen episodes, but then finally picked up when Winter Soldier story line set in and the cheese started to fade. Overall, ended up really enjoying this.
  21. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 3 - Was VERY up and down throughout. There was times I really liked what they were doing, whereas other times where I really did not like what they were doing. Overall, the series is getting a little tired, too many forced fistfights, and still too high on the cheese factor. Still fun at times though.
  22. Marvel's Agent Carter: Season 2 - Great actors and characters combined with a poor, stand-alone story which lacked substance and true stakes to the MCU
 
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Again, since I'm a big rankings guy, I thought I might also update my current Superhero TV show rankings to also include Luke Cage: Season 1.
  1. The Flash (Season 1)
  2. Daredevil (Season 2)
  3. Daredevil (Season 1)
  4. Arrow (Season 2)
  5. Arrow (Season 1)
  6. Jessica Jones (Season 1)
  7. Luke Cage (Season 1)
  8. Agents of Shield (Season 2)
  9. Agent Carter (Season 1)
  10. Agents of Shield (Season 1)
  11. Agents of Shield (Season 3)
  12. Agent Carter (Season 2)
  13. Arrow (Season 3)
  14. Constantine (Season 1)
As I've said before, I only binge watch stuff, so I'm never up to date with anything live, therefore, I'm still missing quite a few current shows on here. I'm currently working through Supergirl, Flash (Season 2), Arrow (Season 4), and Legends of Tomorrow all at the same time, so I'll eventually have them to add on here.
 
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