Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Triggermv]

This is literally starting to make me not like the movie. It was a good movie, but no where near top 5 of all time level.

Definitely one where its pretty obvious that its cultural significance is THE most major player in its box office, more so than actual quality. That isn't to say it is a bad movie, because it isn't. However, I have a hard time putting too much stock in all-time box office to quality correlations when Avatar still remains top dog. It still astounds me how that Fern Gully knockoff made that much money. Not only is it a decent movie at best, but I have zero desire to really ever watch it again.

 

[3GenClone]

Definitely one where its pretty obvious that its cultural significance is THE most major player in its box office, more so than actual quality. That isn't to say it is a bad movie, because it isn't. However, I have a hard time putting too much stock in all-time box office to quality correlations when Avatar still remains top dog. It still astounds me how that Fern Gully knockoff made that much money. Not only is it a decent movie at best, but I have zero desire to really ever watch it again.

Here are the top 5 box office films:

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens
2. Avatar
3. Titanic
4. Jurassic World
5. Black Panther

James Cameron is the Sam Bradford of cinema - he makes garbage movies and keeps getting paid. I'm even more surprised that Jurassic World made that much money. It was entertaining, but it was nowhere near as good as the first Jurassic Park.

 

[BryceC]

Avatar, Titanic, and Jurassic World are seriously just okay movies AT BEST. I'm a Star Wars fan but even TFA is just a good Star Wars movie.

Let's be honest, major blockbusters are events as much as they are quality movies.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Finished Jessica Jones season 2 last night. It was solid but not great. I thought the story line was interesting and I liked what they tried to do but for a super hero show it was pretty lacking in action. Not that I need every episode to be all fighting but there really was little to no action the whole season. Interested to hear other's thoughts? I would put it below Punisher, Daredevil 1 and 2, and Jessica Jones season 1. Above Luke Cage, Defenders, and very above Iron Fist. Basically right in the middle of Netflix Marvel stuff.

 

[harimad]

Avatar, Titanic, and Jurassic World are seriously just okay movies AT BEST. I'm a Star Wars fan but even TFA is just a good Star Wars movie.

Let's be honest, major blockbusters are events as much as they are quality movies.

It just shows that timing has more to do with box office haul than actual content. Obviously a garbage movie is never going to be on the Top 5 all-time list. But a well-crafted movie with flaws, but is timed to coincide with macro trends, can make more money than an absolute masterpiece that doesn't resonate with as many fans at the time.

 

[harimad]

I'm greatly looking forward to Brie Larson as Captain Marvel. I think she's a really fun actress, and her turn as Envy Adams in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, was really good. I think she's very adept in bringing comic book attitudes to life on screen.

 

[State43]

It will be interesting. My only experience growing up with Captain Marvel was after Rogue took her powers and absorbed her conciseness. I know very little else about her.

 

[Triggermv]

It just shows that timing has more to do with box office haul than actual content. Obviously a garbage movie is never going to be on the Top 5 all-time list. But a well-crafted movie with flaws, but is timed to coincide with macro trends, can make more money than an absolute masterpiece that doesn't resonate with as many fans at the time.

The Furious and Transformers movies make some valiant attempts at it

 

[BryceC]

I'm greatly looking forward to Brie Larson as Captain Marvel. I think she's a really fun actress, and her turn as Envy Adams in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, was really good. I think she's very adept in bringing comic book attitudes to life on screen.

I watched Scott Pilgrim when I was home sick about a month ago - fantastic, fantastic movie. The cast in hindsight, especially the women, are essentially a young hollywood who's who now too.

 

[agcy68]

I always cringe when they talk about 'highest' grossing without considering inflation. FYI:

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Year^
1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,854,769,700 $198,676,459 1939^
2 Star Wars Fox $1,635,137,900 $460,998,007 1977^
3 The Sound of Music Fox $1,307,373,200 $158,671,368 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $1,302,222,800 $435,110,554 1982^
5 Titanic Par. $1,244,347,300 $659,363,944 1997^
6 The Ten Commandments Par. $1,202,580,000 $65,500,000 1956
7 Jaws Uni. $1,175,763,500 $260,000,000 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago MGM $1,139,563,500 $111,721,910 1965
9 The Exorcist WB $1,015,300,400 $232,906,145 1973^
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. $1,000,620,000 $184,925,486 1937^

Otherwise, you get movies like Minions 2 thinking they are better than ET.

In that list, Black Panther shows up at #40.

 

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https://screenrant.com/duke-nukem-movie-john-cena/

Not MCU related, but found this kind of interesting. Looks like John Cena might end up being Duke Nukem. Lets just say some things in life just fit, and that fits.

 

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https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/m...bble-for-a-potential-season-6-renewal-a159108

Agents of Shield is reportedly "on the bubble" right now for renewal next season. While I haven't watched any of this season yet, I really hope they keep this thing going. I love this show now. Best case scenario for me is that they remove it from network TV and migrate it over to their new streaming service in 2019. I think it could fit perfect there and it would finally remove all the stupid chains and limitations with Network television.

Has anyone been watching this season? If so, what are your thoughts? I plan on catching up once its all done and available on Netflix.

 

[Triggermv]

I finished Jessica Jones: Season 2 last night, so I figured I'd post my full-out non-spoiler review for anyone interested. Overall, the series was decent, but not great by any extent, and it definitely wasn't as good as the first season. In general, I did enjoy the story for the most part, and I do think that story was paced fairly well throughout the series. There was also some good character and drama moments in there, which do hit pretty well and keep you coming back for more. Jessica Jone's character herself is probably the most interesting character this season.

However, there is no doubt that decent story arc is a VERY slow burn, probably as slow as any of the decent to good Netflix series (I'm excluding you Iron Fist) so far. One quickly realizes that the scale of this show is relatively small and there really is VERY LITTLE action throughout the entire season, which only makes the slow burn feel that much slower. Sometimes you almost feel like they are trying really hard not to be a comic book TV show, well, either that or they are just getting way way to skimpy on the budget. Truthfully, this season probably has the least amount of action of any Marvel Netflix series yet. Another big knock I had on this series was the inconsistencies from episode to episode on character arcs and motivations, which is not a good thing and makes it very apparent how each episode is directed by someone different. In particular, Patsy was by far the worst in this sense. Her character was all over the place throughout the series. It seemed like one episode she thinks and wants this, whereas the next episode she thinks and wants this. While her character arc clearly had an end goal in mind, getting there was just so messy that it left me very unsatisfied in the end. She wasn't the only one either as both Jessica Jones and Malcolm had some of the same issues.

With all that said, I still did overall enjoy the series, but it is definitely more of a middle-tier Netflix series like Luke Cage: Season 1 than an upper-tier series like either Daredevil series or even Jessica Jones' first season. Hey, at least it isn't down in the dumpster with Iron Fist and The Defenders. Comparing directly to Luke Cage, Luke Cage's first half of Season 1 was better than this season of Jessica Jones, but the second half of Luke Cage was worse. Jessica Jones was just more consistent. And one last thing, Season 1 of Jessica Jones was no doubt carried by an outstanding villain in Kilgrave and this season just doesn't have that. The villain in this one was more the mediocre type. Therefore, probably if you took away Kilgrave in the first season and plugged in another mediocre villain, the two seasons would be pretty comparable. Therefore, this just shows how much a good villain can make a series.

Lastly, look for me to update both my MCU and my Superhero TV show rankings soon to include this season of Jessica Jones.

 

[CloniesForLife]

I finished Jessica Jones: Season 2 last night, so I figured I'd post my full-out non-spoiler review for anyone interested. Overall, the series was decent, but not great by any extent, and it definitely wasn't as good as the first season. In general, I did enjoy the story for the most part, and I do think that story was paced fairly well throughout the series. There was also some good character and drama moments in there, which do hit pretty well and keep you coming back for more. Jessica Jone's character herself is probably the most interesting character this season.

However, there is no doubt that decent story arc is a VERY slow burn, probably as slow as any of the decent to good Netflix series (I'm excluding you Iron Fist) so far. One quickly realizes that the scale of this show is relatively small and there really is VERY LITTLE action throughout the entire season, which only makes the slow burn feel that much slower. Sometimes you almost feel like they are trying really hard not to be a comic book TV show, well, either that or they are just getting way way to skimpy on the budget. Truthfully, this season probably has the least amount of action of any Marvel Netflix series yet. Another big knock I had on this series was the inconsistencies from episode to episode on character arcs and motivations, which is not a good thing and makes it very apparent how each episode is directed by someone different. In particular, Patsy was by far the worst in this sense. Her character was all over the place throughout the series. It seemed like one episode she thinks and wants this, whereas the next episode she thinks and wants this. While her character arc clearly had an end goal in mind, getting there was just so messy that it left me very unsatisfied in the end. She wasn't the only one either as both Jessica Jones and Malcolm had some of the same issues.

With all that said, I still did overall enjoy the series, but it is definitely more of a middle-tier Netflix series like Luke Cage: Season 1 than an upper-tier series like either Daredevil series or even Jessica Jones' first season. Hey, at least it isn't down in the dumpster with Iron Fist and The Defenders. Comparing directly to Luke Cage, Luke Cage's first half of Season 1 was better than this season of Jessica Jones, but the second half of Luke Cage was worse. Jessica Jones was just more consistent. And one last thing, Season 1 of Jessica Jones was no doubt carried by an outstanding villain in Kilgrave and this season just doesn't have that. The villain in this one was more the mediocre type. Therefore, probably if you took away Kilgrave in the first season and plugged in another mediocre villain, the two seasons would be pretty comparable. Therefore, this just shows how much a good villain can make a series.

Lastly, look for me to update both my MCU and my Superhero TV show rankings soon to include this season of Jessica Jones.

I agree with everything you wrote.

 

[3GenClone]

Netflix has posted the full video for Trish "Patsy" Walker's "I Want Your Cray Cray"

 

[Triggermv]

After posting my full-out Jessica Jones: Season 2 review, I figured it was about time for me to update my MCU rankings list to include it for anyone interested. It helps that I've had a few days to dwell a bit further on it. Again, the season was pretty decent, but not great and I think you'll find that reflected in my rankings. In general, outside of The Punisher: Season 1, the trend is downward for Marvel television, so they really need to pick things up. I still strong question their leadership right now.

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier – Thought this movie had the best drama and best writing and story line of all the movies. Its action sequences were probably only second to Civil War as well.
2. Marvel’s The Avengers – Iconic way to pull everything together with the best villain in the MCU. The final battle was so epic and unlike anything we had ever seen up until that point.
3. Captain America: Civil War - Most fun and one of the funniest movies on the list. Also produced the best action sequences, had some of the best character moments, and showcased the best balancing act of so many characters. Biggest downfall was having a very good, but not great story line, which kept it from topping my list.
4. Iron Man – Epic way to start the Universe with an unbelievable star for a headliner. Never got into the Iron Monger villain though.
5. Guardians of the Galaxy – Best space epic since the original Star Wars movies. Also was probably the funniest movie of the MCU so far.
6. Marvel's The Punisher: Season 1 - Most complete Marvel TV series so far with great pacing, great story, superb casting, and amazing acting. Ben Barnes as Billy Russo is now not only one of my favorite actors, but he is up there as one of the best Marvel villains. Very stand-alone series, but I wish there were a few more crossovers.
7. Marvel's Daredevil: Season 2 - The introduction of Jon Bernthal's Punisher in Season 2 was what truly made this season great and better than Season 2. Had a few pacing issues, but overall, the series only improved all the characters within it from Season 1, but I'm still so-so on all the Electra stuff. Still needs a few more crossovers, but had a few.
8. Marvel’s Daredevil: Season 1 – Loved the street-level more-adult-themed tone of this show. Also contains probably the second best villain in the MCU. Being on Netflix is a great way to un-cuff all the normal problems of making a TV show for network viewing.
9. Ant-Man - Had super-low expectations, but walked away pleasantly surprised. Yet another weak villain, but contained some great comedy with some great actors. Paul Rudd won me over when I once was really skeptical of him.
10. Captain America: The First Avenger – Epic first-half of the movie with Cap’s origin story, but believe it or not, I found Red Skull a little underdeveloped. Loved the WWII time period aspect of this one.
11. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Amazing casting on this movie throughout, with Tom Holland being the best Spider-Man yet. Also featured one of the greatest villains in the MCU yet with Michael Keaton, with one of the best scenes and best twists. Movie just lacked the music score and emotional weight of some of its predecessors.
12. Black Panther - Very good movie with great characters, superb character development, a good story arc, and a top 3 Marvel villain. However, its biggest downfall is some very poor action and CGI work.
13. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 4 - Best season of AOS so far with a very good two-part story line. Ghost Rider was amazing movie quality all around (casting, acting, visuals, story) and fit perfectly into the story, as well as tying the series to the Doctor Strange multi-verse/mystical/inter-dimensional world. Tons of fun with a lot of great emotion.
14. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - Huge on the laughs, fun and heart, but a little mediocre on the story and substance. Also, went a little overboard at times where things got a bit too campy. Characters were probably more fun than story.
15. Marvel's Jessica Jones: Season 1 - Series filled with great actors, great drama, good diversity to what we are used to, and one of the best villains in the MCU (Kilgrave). Series suffered most from having probably 3-4 too many episodes, poor pacing, and not enough ties to the overall MCU.
16. Iron Man 2 – Many will mock me, but I actually really enjoyed this movie and actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man 3. Make fun of me all you want, but I didn’t think Whiplash was that bad. I think this movie gets unfairly criticized.
17. Doctor Strange - This was a fairly Marvel formulaic origin story with some ground-breaking visual effects, a mediocre villain, an innovative ending, and some great characters. However, its biggest problem for me is that it was probably just a bit too out there on the magic side to fully be my cup of tea, which is okay. I still enjoyed it.
    
18. Avengers: Age of Ultron – Fun movie, but suffered from too much CGI action, too many characters, and too many storylines.
19. Iron Man 3 – Don’t know what it is, but I just never really got into this one, and it probably had something to do with the big Mandarin villain twist towards the end. Also never really liked Killian either. Again, I surprisingly like Iron Man 2 better
20. Thor– Don’t know what it is, but I just never got into this storyline or villains as much as the others. However, it is growing on me over time and I now like this more than Thor: The Dark World
21. Thor: Ragnarok - I appreciate them trying to go in a creative new direction on this movie, but it ultimately felt too much like a quirky improv comedy (how he shot it) to me. Went a little too heavy on the comedy, which ultimately offset and mitigated the substance, scale, and weight of the movie. Hela was great villain though.
22. Marvel's Luke Cage: Season 1 - Loved the music angle, loved Cottonmouth as the villain, loved the first 4 episodes. However, this was another Netflix series that really lost its way somewhere in the middle, and I really didn't care for any of the Diamondback stuff. Still enjoyed it, but definitely the worst Netflix series yet.
23. Thor: The Dark World – Criticize me if you will, but I actually liked this movie more than probably most, but after re-watching it recently, it did fall some in my rankings. I now have the origin Thor above it.
24. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 2 – Liked the less cheese and more serious tone than the first season. Also, loved the Inhuman’s storyline. Used to hate Skye, but now don’t mind her.
25. Marvel’s Agent Carter – Loved the period timepiece aspect of this. Great show with good movie tie-ins.
26. Marvel's Jessica Jones: Season 2 - Had some great character moments that draw you in as well as some decent pacing, but overall struggles mightily from being a really slow burn. It also really lacks action and doesn't have another villain on par with Kilgrave.
27. The Incredible Hulk – Good movie, but not great. Never was into Norton for the role or the look they gave theHulk, so I was super glad when the switch was made and they remade the Hulk's appearance.
28. Marvel's Runways: Season 1 - Had a good tone as well as some good character work throughout. However, there was very little action and what action we got was really lackluster. Also, its biggest problem was that it didn't exactly stick the landing at the end. This was a decent series overall, but not great by any means.
29. Marvel’s Agents of Shield: Season 1 – Struggled hardcore in the first half-dozen episodes, but then finally picked up when Winter Soldier story line set in and the cheese started to fade. Overall, ended up really enjoying this.
30. Marvel's Agents of Shield: Season 3 - Was VERY up and down throughout. There was times I really liked what they were doing, whereas other times where I really did not like what they were doing. Overall, the series is getting a little tired, too many forced fistfights, and still too high on the cheese factor. Still fun at times though.
31. Marvel's The Defenders: Season 1: Started out alright including a great hallway fight scene earlier on, but then everything fell apart from there in the back half of the season, mostly dragged down by Iron Fist being Iron Fist, poor storytelling, and really poor dialogue. This series was a big let-down for me.
32. Marvel's Agent Carter: Season 2 - Great actors and characters combined with a poor stand-alone story, which lacked substance and true stakes to the MCU
33. Marvel's Iron Fist: Season 1 - A combination of terrible casting/acting from Danny Rand, terrible boring story, poor fight sequences, and too low a budget resulted in Marvel's first major dud for a TV show. At least the back half of the season was much better than the front half.
34. Marvel's Inhumans - Garbage TV show all around. Bad acting, costumes, sets, directing, characterizations, special effects, and storytelling. This TV show was intentionally made fast and on the cheap as a money-grab and it totally shows through

 

[Triggermv]

To go along with my updated MCU rankings to include Jessica Jones: Season 2, here is also my updated overall Superhero TV rankings.

1. The Punisher (Season 1)
2. The Flash (Season 1)
3. Daredevil (Season 2)
4. Daredevil (Season 1)
5. Agents of Shield (Season 4)
6. Arrow (Season 2)
7. Arrow (Season 1)
8. The Gifted (Season 1)
9. Legion (Season 1)
10. Arrow (Season 5)
11. The Flash (Season 2)
12. Supergirl (Season 1)
13. Jessica Jones (Season 1)
14. Supergirl (Season 2)
15. Luke Cage (Season 1)
16. Agents of Shield (Season 2)
17. Agent Carter (Season 1)
18. The Tick (Season 1)
19. Jessica Jones (Season 2)
20. Runaways (Season 1)
21. The Flash (Season 3)
22. Powerless (Season 1)
23. Agents of Shield (Season 1)
24. Agents of Shield (Season 3)
25. Agent Carter (Season 2)
26. Iron Fist (Season 1)
27. Preacher (Season 1)
28. Arrow (Season 3)
29. Constantine (Season 1)
30. Arrow (Season 4)
31. Legends of Tomorrow (Season 1)
32. Legends of Tomorrow (Season 2)
33. Inhumans (Season 1)

 

[Triggermv]

https://screenrant.com/john-krasinski-fantastic-four-reboot-cast/

Looks like John Krsasinski would love to play Mr. Fantastic in a Fantastic 4 reboot. Also, he would said he would love to play the role alongside his wife Emily Blunt as The Invisible movie. Truthfully, I'm surprised I haven't thought about this until now, but count me 100% in for this. In fact, this is my #1 casting idea duos right now for those roles. I could see them both being really great.

 

[State43]

https://screenrant.com/john-krasinski-fantastic-four-reboot-cast/

Looks like John Krsasinski would love to play Mr. Fantastic in a Fantastic 4 reboot. Also, he would said he would love to play the role alongside his wife Emily Blunt as The Invisible movie. Truthfully, I'm surprised I haven't thought about this until now, but count me 100% in for this. In fact, this is my #1 casting idea duos right now for those roles. I could see them both being really great.

I never watching his Benghazi movie and want to see his new horror flick. Seems he is really trying to show his range. I still have trouble shaking him as Jim.

 

[Triggermv]

I never watching his Benghazi movie and want to see his new horror flick. Seems he is really trying to show his range. I still have trouble shaking him as Jim.

Simply watch 13 Hours and you will change your mind. I did. Also, as much as I dog Michael Bay, I loved 13 Hours. It reminded me of Black Hawk Down, another movie I loved.