How is that not classy? You tell him up front what he gets. Would you rather wait until he gets a second year and then, surprise, no scholarships available!
Marquis Gilstrap report
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How is that not classy? You tell him up front what he gets. Would you rather wait until he gets a second year and then, surprise, no scholarships available!
Alright. So lets over promise and under deliver. That will impress him.
Being honest and up front with what we have to offer is classy.
CycloneErik
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I'm rethinking my response, having read yours. It's not a comfortable situation either way. I don't like the idea of leaving him out to dry on the second year, if that doesn't come together.
At the same time, I appreciate the point that he has to know all of this coming in. The first post might have sounded a little abrupt, and triggered the responses you received.
Certainly, he is coming in knowing that the likelihood is a one-and-done. As Aclone said, with a family to support, he may not really be seeking that extra year.
You've got me on a situation I haven't thought through completely enough. Good work outta you!
Yeah, I understand the process, but any feeling from the coaches on how likely it is he will get the extra year?
I think the point was that if granted a 2nd year, we must keep him on scholarship, not when to tell him that he WONT be kept on. Taking away his scholarship would not be classy, period. It doesn't matter when you tell him that, unless it was agreed when Iowa State first offered him.
What I'm thinking is this scenario:
You bring him in thinking he a 1 year player. You fill your scholarships based on that. If he wins a second year, you have to push the missing scholarship back on Marquis (star player or not) because you brought him in on the idea he was a 1 year guy. Sucks for him and sucks for the staff but somebody needs to lose out. How can you ask one of the 4 year scholly kids to give up a scholly when they were brought in knowing they would use 4 years.
That is all I'm saying. Let him know up front what could happen.
CycloneErik
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That scenario would be the necessary one. It just didn't quite sound that way in the first post. I think we're in agreement here.
Exactly. I guess I'm hoping that discussion has already happened even before he accepted the offer. Everything I said above is assuming that. If wasn't told that already, then there are bigger problems to deal with.
They honestly don't know...Right now it is being looked at as a one year deal. No other way to look at it.
Right, he is promised a one year ride...he has to assume baring a transfer or decommit that if he gets a 2nd year he stands a good chance of paying his own way. I'm having a hard time understanding what is classless about this?
Last year Reese's statistics weren't impressive. He shot only 41% from the floor and had 38 assists to 63 turnovers.
Combined Season Statshttp://www.gcathletics.com/AthleticTeams/MensBasketball/Dakstats/Mbb 0708 Web/scombined_19.html
Maybe he's improved a lot this year? Their website hasn't posted this season's stats as of yet.
Combined Season Statshttp://www.gcathletics.com/AthleticTeams/MensBasketball/Dakstats/Mbb 0708 Web/scombined_19.html
Maybe he's improved a lot this year? Their website hasn't posted this season's stats as of yet.
and how exactly is Gilstrap supposed to be able to pay his own way? As an out of state resident who can't earn more than $2500/yr.
Not to pick on any one person...I'm curious as to why we're all getting up in arms about something that may never become an issue? Or, at this stage, obviously isn't, since the kid chose to sign with ISU already? Just like any other player situation, there are doubtless ways of dealing with it.
ISU gave Gilstrap an opportunity to play for 1 year. Not a lot of schools would even bother. It helps both parties...perfect fits based on that one kid transferring. If he gets another year he may not have the option to use it at ISU but we can't plan for the additional year. As long as we were up front with him it's all good.
I don't know, student loans? I got 30K in loans, MG might have 5K with a probable six figure career overseas at the least. I think he'd survive...
I wouldn't say it's classless. As long as we are upfront with him about it from the beginning I see nothing wrong with it. As far as him possibly not wanting a 2nd year, that depends on how well he plays his first year vs. how badly he needs the money. If he can try and get a second year to improve and possibly go to the NBA as opposed to Europe, then I would think if he can afford to wait another year that he'd try to do that. I don't know. This scenario is getting too hypothetical for me haha
I don't know that he's totally destined for the 3. Against UNI, we had Haluska and Lucca playing some 4 at times. What they need is a mobile 4 that can hit the three (WJ?) yet rebound and defend the post. I could see Gilstrap playing some 3 against normal lineups, but more 4 against smaller lineups.
You could be completly correct. My speculation on the 3 deal is strictly based on his size. His game is somewhat like WJ (take it to the hoop while still shooting from outside). I do think he might be a better rebounder then WJ. I've only seen one game so I'm interested to see some more of him.
Here is just the scoring stats from this year for Gilstrap:
*= leading scorer for the team
21*
24*
22*
22*
--- (couldn't find the stats on the Central Florida game)
24*
27 2OT Reese had 32
16
23
12
Gilstrap has been hitting the boards well too normally getting in or close to double figures.
*= leading scorer for the team
21*
24*
22*
22*
--- (couldn't find the stats on the Central Florida game)
24*
27 2OT Reese had 32
16
23
12
Gilstrap has been hitting the boards well too normally getting in or close to double figures.