Malou entering the Draft without Agent

[woodm07]

Oh I agree but I don't think losing a 6'9" stretch 4 is a good thing. Hopefully he gets pushed through.

In an ideal world we would pick up a true 5 and have Burton and Malou competing for the 4.

 

[IAStubborn]

A player has to stay in the draft to be eligible for d-league. You can call this the Mike Taylor rule. After he was picked up, post-dismissal from ISU, and entered draft the following year, the league instituted rule where guy must go through draft to play in the d-league.

5 to play 4 does not start until a player participates in a sports program, either via scholarship, practice, or other team activities. That rule does not impact this situation. There are limits as to how far removed a kid can begin that clock and how many years a kid can play prep school after graduation and still be eligible. Some of this is a debate over when he "graduated from high school" because it was not a normal route that kids from here would go through. There is also a start/finish age for the 5 to play 4, and there is some process needed to certify with the NCAA clearinghouse that he is in that window. Also because he does not meet the HS entry requirements, he absolutely has to get his degree from DMACC.

Your 5 year clock starts once you enroll full time. It has nothing to do with sports. Even under the delayed entry rule he would have five years AFTER the first year of ABCD. So oy one year of ABCD prep and 1.5 of JUCO would count. If you stop playing it doesn't count. The questions are 2 fold, when he played in Australia in what would have been his senior year in HS when he played and enrolled in secondary college (I don't know what this is bit sounds like A trade school equivalent) if they rule that is his one year of prep he is either done or they could grant him a half season of eligability (my guess why he stopped playing at yuba).

 

[cycfan1]

MM, NML, MT, DJ, and Burton? Never touch a rebound, but would absolutely run a defense ragid.

Just trade 3 for 2s every time. Genious

 

[RustShack]

I thought when the clock started it doesn't stop.

 

[BCClone]

I thought when the clock started it doesn't stop.

You are correct for D1. There is no clock stoppage. Only shot is a medical redshirt to gain a 6th year to play 4.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Is this where we go for the ketchup/catsup debate?

 

[Gunnerclone]

Gotta think that given his eligibility concerns the staff has a backup plan in mind, and has for a while, but I haven't seen us involved with many 5th year transfers, and the high school talent pool is all but tapped by now. Might be time to get Stu some actual sports goggles.

Dude we have a 5th year transfer already locked up. When have we ever gotten more than 1 for a season?

 

[zenmaster]

Your 5 year clock starts once you enroll full time. It has nothing to do with sports. Even under the delayed entry rule he would have five years AFTER the first year of ABCD. So oy one year of ABCD prep and 1.5 of JUCO would count. If you stop playing it doesn't count. The questions are 2 fold, when he played in Australia in what would have been his senior year in HS when he played and enrolled in secondary college (I don't know what this is bit sounds like A trade school equivalent) if they rule that is his one year of prep he is either done or they could grant him a half season of eligability (my guess why he stopped playing at yuba).

You are correct, and I am mistaken. It used to be that a kid could greyshirt and pay their own way for a year without participating. Now they can't take a full load.

 

[WastedTalent]

Your 5 year clock starts once you enroll full time. It has nothing to do with sports. Even under the delayed entry rule he would have five years AFTER the first year of ABCD. So oy one year of ABCD prep and 1.5 of JUCO would count. If you stop playing it doesn't count. The questions are 2 fold, when he played in Australia in what would have been his senior year in HS when he played and enrolled in secondary college (I don't know what this is bit sounds like A trade school equivalent) if they rule that is his one year of prep he is either done or they could grant him a half season of eligability (my guess why he stopped playing at yuba).

I'm not even sure they do half seasons.

 

[Cydkar]

MM, NML, MT, DJ, and Burton? Never touch a rebound, but would absolutely run a defense ragid.

We could shoot 70% and still lose

 

[CycloneBBFan]

Shams CharaniaVerified account ‏@ShamsCharania 8m8 minutes ago
Iowa State commit, sophomore Emmanuel Malou, filed paperwork to enter the 2016 NBA Draft without immediate agent, sources tell The Vertical.

The "NCAA" is getting to be a royal pain in the arse lately. I imagine if we were North Carolina things would be different.

 

[IAStubborn]

You are correct for D1. There is no clock stoppage. Only shot is a medical redshirt to gain a 6th year to play 4.

2 different clocks. The clock once you enroll fulltime does not stop umess uou are a Mormon or in the military. The second clock the one being discussed here is the delayed entry clock. That clock starts after one year post highschool that you are still playing your sport. You stop playing your sport that clockstops and it stops eating your eligability.re

 

[IAStubborn]

I'm not even sure they do half seasons.

normally they don't for eligability, but who knows with the delayed entry issue. But after further thought you are probably correct.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Rooting for the kid even if he doesn't play a minute at Iowa State. Seems like a good kid with good intentions and alot of ability that has managed to run into several ne'er-do-wells.

Yeah, he has undoubtedly received a lot of really terrible advice, and was certainly scammed by the ABCD Prep guy too. I feel for him, and hope it all works out in the end.

 

[Hoiball92]

Like I said this won't last long. 162 players is ridiculous

Jon RothsteinVerified account‏@JonRothstein
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162 players are on the early entry list for the NBA Draft. Only 60 will be drafted. I'll say it again: this rule is not for the long term.

 

[Nycclone]

Based on my reading of the "college" he went to in Australia, it sounds like a high school so don't think they'd start his clock until the 12-13 year. And pretty sure they'd start it then since he declared for the draft in 13. Since there were injuries in there maybe they win an appeal for an extra year. And if I'm wrong about the "college" in Australia, he may have already used it up.

Obviously I'm not keeping my hopes up. Wishing for the best though.

 

[acgclone]

Even one year would be better than none.

 

[heitclone]

After high school I traveled to Australia as part of the Down Under Hoops Classic, we played against high school teams and college teams. We were told the college teams were essentially private high schools, not college in our terms.

 

[SoapyCy]

whole thing is too complicated. bet it would be easier if everyone went to a normal high school and then to college like they used to.

 

[HFCS]

This rule probably hurts guys like McKay more than anybody in terms of getting noticed and getting in the combine. He has combine #s head turner written all over him.

Now he has lots of marginal but very athletic underclassmen in the same boat.