Lipsey Shoutout

Similar stat line in some regards. Big difference it’s what I eluded to earlier which is the 3 point shooting. Monte made more per game as a freshman then Lipsey is attempting and happened to have his best shooting year percentage wise at just north of 40%.
With the shooters coming in he could have 10 assists a game and lobbing to Omaha which I can’t wait to watch that!
 
Another fun stat I thought I'd throw into this thread, because Lipsey's a big part of it:

Through 14 games this year, ISU has not - in any game - had more Turnovers than Forced Turnovers (i.e. the opponent has had more TOs in every game). Even in the two losses!

Last year there were 9 (!!) games where we forced fewer TOs than we committed, and we went 4-5 in those games

Last year we averaged 13.8 TOs per game and forced 16.6
This year we average 13.0 TOs per game and have forced 20.0

I didn't realize we'd improved that much!

We have also played a tougher schedule this year up through this point.

Lipsey's ball handling, Grill's improved defense, and the additions of guys like Osun and King have helped with creating TOs. It also feels like improved shot selection and rebounding (which has been very good the last several games) have helped limit transition opportunities, which then creates more opportunities (for steels) in the half court.
 
We have also played a tougher schedule this year up through this point.

Lipsey's ball handling, Grill's improved defense, and the additions of guys like Osun and King have helped with creating TOs. It also feels like improved shot selection and rebounding (which has been very good the last several games) have helped limit transition opportunities, which then creates more opportunities (for steels) in the half court.
Just noticed in the game thread that we're now #1 in Defensive TO% on KenPom.
 
The thing about backing off Tamin is that it means you're allowing him to make uncontested passes and he will make you pay by finding the right guy in the right position. Otherwise the coaches in this league would already be doing it.

Also, he's really good at forcing the defender to make a decision. He's almost always moving forward off the dribble. Guard him and he makes an accurate pass. Back up and he takes it all the way to the rim.
He definitely is good at taking up the slack, and as I said in the game thread, an uncanny hesitation that leaves defenders flat footed a lot. Like, they don't even jump to block his shot a lot of times because it freezes them.
 
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He definitely is good at taking up the slack, and as I said in the game thread, an uncanny hesitation that leaves defenders flat footed a lot. Like, they don't even jump to block his shot a lot of times because it freezes them.

He's kind of like a MLB pitcher that uses speed change to keep hitters off balance. He's very adept at changing gears and directional change which makes him look faster than he really is. He's also excellent at shielding the ball, both on the dribble and when going up near the hoop. I obviously don't have stats on this but I'm sure the bulk of his turnovers are from (occasional) errant passes and getting picked from behind. He pretty much never turns it over against an on the ball defender.
 
We still think you're crazy, and you were right. The two can be mutually correct.
Lots of different people are having the conversation from different angles. Pre-season those who were less optimistic on the upcoming season were pointing to the loss of Hunter as something that wasn't replaceable, and a lot of us, myself included, argued that Hunters production actually wasn't that hard to replace. This season has shown that to be true. That said, Hunter is still a great player, and having Lipsey and Hunter was not an either/or proposition. It was still a loss, and having both players this season would have been amazing.
 
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I think he is a lot quicker than some teams are realizing. Seems like he is getting downhill into the lane petty easily when he wants to. And that’s without a strong outside threat which would hypothetically allow defenders to sag off him a little bit (so even more impressive really).
I totally agree with this. He's deceptively quick.

I mean, he's been able to take it to the rack off the dribble in every game we've played so far. And that's been against some pretty elite competition as well.
 
Love, love, love to see Tamin square up and hit that three tonight when Tech went under that screen and left him like 6 feet of space to shoot. If he could hit that shot even 30% of the time it completely changes how you have to guard or screen and roll.

He’s already getting what he wants a lot of times when they go under. If you make them go over the top of it or switch on it he’s going to be a nightmare. Especially when we get more capable scorers in our rotation.
 
Lots of different people are having the conversation from different angles. Pre-season those who were less optimistic on the upcoming season were pointing to the loss of Hunter as something that wasn't replaceable, and a lot of us, myself included, argued that Hunters production actually wasn't that hard to replace. This season has shown that to be true. That said, Hunter is still a great player, and having Lipsey and Hunter was not an either/or proposition. It was still a loss, and having both players this season would have been amazing.

I'm pretty shocked losing Hunter/Brockington and with the Williams injury that so far Gabe/Grill/Lipsey/Holmes has been one of our best backcourts of the past 30 years.

Two guys improving from last year and a freshman producing. When you factor in that all of them play great defense, you have to look at them with the best backcourts we've had if they keep this up for rest of the year.
 
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Agree with point above and think Holmes is not being talked about enough at this point in the season.

Not to say others don’t deserve the credit and publicity they’ve been getting, but he’s quietly been going about his business and playing pretty damn good basketball.
 
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Defensive Box Plus/Minus
Defensive Plus-Minus is one kind of a plus-minus metric that measures the difference per 100 possessions in points allowed with a player on the court versus off the court. The accuracy of this measure varies depending upon how often the player is on the floor and whom the player share it with.
1.Tamin Lipsey Iowa State6.0
2.Moussa Cisse Oklahoma State5.5
3.Kevin McCullar Kansas5.4
4.Avery Anderson Oklahoma State5.1
5.Dale Bonner Baylor5.0
6.Dajuan Harris Kansas4.6
7.Gabe Kalscheur Iowa State4.4
8.Aljaz Kunc Iowa State4.4
9.Tanner Groves Oklahoma4.3
10.De'Vion Harmon Texas Tech4.1
11.Daniel Batcho Texas Tech4.0
12.KJ Adams Kansas3.8
13.Caleb Grill Iowa State3.7
14.Jaylon Tyson Texas Tech3.7
15.Kalib Boone Oklahoma State3.5
16.Micah Peavy TCU3.5
17.Marcus Carr Texas3.5
18.Timmy Allen Texas3.3
19.Markquis Nowell Kansas State3.2
20.Gradey **** Kansas3.2
 
Lots of different people are having the conversation from different angles. Pre-season those who were less optimistic on the upcoming season were pointing to the loss of Hunter as something that wasn't replaceable, and a lot of us, myself included, argued that Hunters production actually wasn't that hard to replace. This season has shown that to be true. That said, Hunter is still a great player, and having Lipsey and Hunter was not an either/or proposition. It was still a loss, and having both players this season would have been amazing.
I thought we were doomed for a bad year because Hunter left, we lost out on AJ Green and then Williams was lost for the season. I was wrong. Good coaching, not just Xs &Os, but setting a culture, managing personalities and egos, building team chemistry and getting them to gel has more than compensated for what lost out on. Then we lose Kunz, don't even miss a beat. TJ is doing a great job. Oh and Lipsey has been great!! Like his game better than Hunter's anyway
 
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Similar stat line in some regards. Big difference it’s what I eluded to earlier which is the 3 point shooting. Monte made more per game as a freshman then Lipsey is attempting and happened to have his best shooting year percentage wise at just north of 40%.
I've watched enough of Lipsey to say he is better than Monte his freshman year. Way more physical, and playing a way bigger roll than Monte had to. Monte played second fiddle to Kane. I don't see Lipsey playing second to anyone. Watching a lot of basketball and I'd say Lipsey is one of the better pg's out there right now. Gonna be a fun ride watching his career.
 
Williams going
Lots of different people are having the conversation from different angles. Pre-season those who were less optimistic on the upcoming season were pointing to the loss of Hunter as something that wasn't replaceable, and a lot of us, myself included, argued that Hunters production actually wasn't that hard to replace. This season has shown that to be true. That said, Hunter is still a great player, and having Lipsey and Hunter was not an either/or proposition. It was still a loss, and having both players this season would have been amazing.
Williams going down was a bigger loss than losing Hunter in my opinion. Hope he's 100% next season. Love watching tape on him while at Temple..Not a huge scorer, but plays nasty D and has some scary dribbling ability.
 
Him and Tre King dropping threes?

That's when you're feeling it. I didn't know King had that but that's great that teams will need to account for it a bit.
 
Man he was good last night. Seemed much more comfortable taking jumpers, and knocked one down which was great to see. Also the kid can straight up pass the ball! The behind the back to Kalscheur for 3 was one of the smoothest basketball plays I've ever seen. Dude is special running the point.
 

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