Agreed and thanks for clarifying on the records under Campbell. Here is a view year over year for others to see.
Liberty Bowl postgame thread
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Thinking more on it. We are so close. Average Oline play and play calling can put us in an amazing spot. Especially in the new Big 12.
Purdy most certainly did not progress “well” at Iowa State. He factually developed bad habits due to circumstances out of his control (horrid O-Line play).
It’s so silly (and funny) for ISU fans to get SOOO defensive about Brock’s time at ISU; there are very real and valid reasons why his draft stock continued to plummet the MORE college football he played. There are very real and logical reasons why basically no scouts or NFL minds/coaches/analysts felt he was worth an early or mid round pick.
And all our fans screaming “See! See! All you scouts got it so wrong!” - Lol, no, they didn’t. You know what happened immediately AFTER wrapping up his college career? Brock worked his ass off with a private throwing coach. He then worked his ass off in 9’ers camp, with extreme and purposeful focus on vastly improving his throwing mechanics and footwork, and learning how to read a defense from the pocket. Traits he did not make significant advances on at Iowa State. Brock literally looks like and plays like a completely different player for the 9’ers. The 9’ers staff even admits this - they had NO idea they were getting THIS polished of a player because he didn’t demonstrate early round traits on tape. Brock deserves that credit for growing up so quickly in that initial offseason. He earned it, the hard way. The progress he made in those 6 - 12 months after ISU is wildly impressive. Baffles my mind how ISU fans can just ignorantly try to take that away from him and try shift credit to our staff; the staff didn’t turn Brock Purdy into an MVP candidate.
Penn State and Mississippi are really getting after it in the meaningless Peach Bowl. I guess they missed the memo that these games don't matter. I'm trying to be nice - I haven't "dumbed" a post in months but those of you who continue to bloviate about "meaningless exhibitions" are trying my patience.
I wasn't a marketing major, but ISU's "national brand" is weak - winning bowl games and getting positive press are necessary to build that brand, which leads to many positives. It was a missed opportunity, plain and simple.
I wasn't a marketing major, but ISU's "national brand" is weak - winning bowl games and getting positive press are necessary to build that brand, which leads to many positives. It was a missed opportunity, plain and simple.
People are going to hate this but I couldn’t agree more. I think a lot of that was due to Manning and his general ineptness. Purdy never really took that next step forward after his freshman year, and the offensive staff took away what helped make him so good (his running).
Saw it live right in front of me.
He said something and then turns back.
points and says something again.
Didn’t look like he was just “having fun” live and replay catches it at 3:03 3rd Q.
See post above.
I’m not saying anything pro or con.
Only reporting what I saw.
Seemed like an interesting piece of in-game action.
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Are we still 7-5 since this was an exhibition? I'm guessing Rocco's passing record doesn't count either?
Let us summarize what we are seeing on this thread-
Several individuals say this bowl game doesn't matter. Individuals who have spent entire months of aggregate time of their lives or more on this site posting (Taking the number of posts stat at face value).
This means that none of the games matter, every sport, every practice, every snap, every dribble, every player does not matter. You are not on the team, so you are not supposed to care at all.
These individuals, who spend months or more of their lives posting here, are telling everyone this game is irrelevant. They also relentlessly mock anyone who seems to express the fact they care about anything related to Cyclone sports. In summary, openly attacking people that are fans of Cyclone sports.
According to these aforementioned individuals, Cyclone sports overall do not matter, and you are better off not to care at all regardless of the outcome. The only exception is when they say it matters of course.
What a wonderful philosophy on the site called Cyclonefanatic!!!
Several individuals say this bowl game doesn't matter. Individuals who have spent entire months of aggregate time of their lives or more on this site posting (Taking the number of posts stat at face value).
This means that none of the games matter, every sport, every practice, every snap, every dribble, every player does not matter. You are not on the team, so you are not supposed to care at all.
These individuals, who spend months or more of their lives posting here, are telling everyone this game is irrelevant. They also relentlessly mock anyone who seems to express the fact they care about anything related to Cyclone sports. In summary, openly attacking people that are fans of Cyclone sports.
According to these aforementioned individuals, Cyclone sports overall do not matter, and you are better off not to care at all regardless of the outcome. The only exception is when they say it matters of course.
What a wonderful philosophy on the site called Cyclonefanatic!!!
With all the statements in these threads, we might as well melt down the Fiesta Bowl trophy for scrap, because these are just exhibition games.
Progressed well? Lmao
He didn’t develop. It’s a big reason why he dropped on draft boards. It’s why he’s talked about how much he had to develop after Iowa St.
That’s been the case since 2017. A huge missed opportunity
Heacock has carried this program. Hopefully we don’t find out what happens when his defense is more common place and/or has a true lull.
JFC he didnt regress he was who he was. Holding every ISU QB record discounts anything you post. No one saw him as a top 5 round pick. You are a moron.
That’s valid. We are very close if we are able to keep this great defense going. If the defense takes a step back then the offense will have to take a big leap to make it up for it.
Well Penn State must have stopped caring.
What bowl winning team from this year and last year do you think has helped their brand?
Ya I would describe these bowl games as not a lot to gain but a lot to lose (like getting hammered by a G5).
It's REALLY hard to start at QB for 3.5 years. Him being as good as he was despite a bad OL and limited receivers ('19-21) and a ton of film on his tendencies tells us he was still really good.
His throwing motion and form are still very much similar to his college days. Maybe a bit quicker.