Last Year Vs. This Year
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Yep. Leave it to the KU fan to make more sense and be more level headed than some cyclones on here. Although, I will say some of the most obsurd posts calling out this year's players and praising last year's like they were gods, are posters who don't come around unless they are ****** off after a loss.
Bingo. I swear some people don't remember anything that happened before the Big 12 Tournament last year.
That may be the single dumbest idea to come from this board yet. BTW, speaking of dumb ideas, does anyone else remember the ISU professor from the early '90's who postulated that it would be a great idea to blow up the moon? Maybe he's the ring leader in the "bench Georges" movement.
I wouldn't call either one of them stellar on defense. Maybe slighfly above avg, but nothing close to a guy like Babb.
I just wrote this "They weren't world beaters, but I'd take both of them defensively in a heartbeat now." If you are giving me Babb, then of course, I'm in.
The original post was regarding last year's team/players, thus the comments about Kane and Ejim (and some revisionist history).
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ISU players have looked totally gassed in their recent road losses @KU and @OU. And you want them to press MORE?
Yeah. What's frustrating *SoFar* this year, is that I know some of these guys could be so much better on defense. We've seen really good defense from Hogue, and great defense from Morris. We've even seen BDJ play really good defense at times, they just need to put it all together.
Can't argue with that. There's always room for improvement for sure. A couple of points —
* Maybe our style of offensive play wears them down defensively, or they are worried that going "balls out" defensively will slow them down offensively. Babb's offensive game often took a hit as he was imposing his defensive will if you remember. Exerting more defensively would require a more balanced approach and is doable.
* Maybe they really don't spend enough time on defensive fundamentals so games are a reflection of that omission. This is also correctable.
* Lastly, and this is not immediately fixable, we are simply outmanned on this end of the court. In other words, we are greatly undersized. Hogue is small comparatively, McKay is a stick, Georges is not huge. We can only be physical to the degree that we are built to be physical. For example, take a look at Rico Gathers from BU; he can literally get as deep as he wants in the post against us because he is such a physically imposing dude. Most of our conference competition have guys who can equally body us down low like this.
I think you have the ranks for Adjusted Defensive Efficiency backwards.
Here's the screen shot comp between last year and this year I stole from kenpom. The similarities are amazing:
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That would screw up the tidal waves and helping to keep the earth rotating like it does.That might have caused climate change.
All/Any of those are possible. One thing I've noticed with this team, more so than I can remember with others, is that if the pace isn't going their way, or they can't get what they want on offense, they get frustrated, and then it effects their defense, then it's just a slippery slope.
Look at the games they could get out and run and dictate tempo Arkansas, Iowa, and Ku, they dominated. Even last night, had it not been for the turnovers at the end of the half, they dominated OU in the first half, then OU makes adjustments, slows us down, and the guys start to get frustrated and it shows on both ends.
My amateur arm chair coach advise to them would be play each possession as it is. Something isn't there on offense, get back, play you're *** off on defense. Even after ca made basket, it takes stops to make a run. The points will come. There's too much talent on that team to not eventually get points up.
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All of the above. Well said. And it takes a lot for players to buy in to playing tough defense, especially if it hasn't been a huge priority in the past. Hoiberg is a great coach and I will certainly give him credit for continually identifying areas of weakness and addressing them in the offseason, whether that's in personnel or in scheme. I have no doubt that defense and interior depth will be a focus of his to continue to proceed towards the next level. It's much easier to go from where ISU was prior to Hoiberg's arrival to where they are now than to go from where ISU is now to a consistent Final Four contender but no reason to think that it can't or won't be done.
Too often it looks like we're playing defense just to get the ball back on offense.
Sounds dumb, but it seems they don't care what kind of look the other team gets, as long as we get the ball back, so they can be on offense. We're relying on the other team to make a mistake or miss a shot, and hopefully we get the rebound. Which last year worked decent because that team could rebound on the defensive end.
Sounds dumb, but it seems they don't care what kind of look the other team gets, as long as we get the ball back, so they can be on offense. We're relying on the other team to make a mistake or miss a shot, and hopefully we get the rebound. Which last year worked decent because that team could rebound on the defensive end.
Well, we've pressed on the road in the last two games to make up large deficits. If we're going to press near the end of the game anyway, why not start the second half by pressing (or even after a time out when the other team has gone on a run)? It would throw the other team off-balance and, more importantly, make our players more aggressive/confident, something the team appears to lack when facing adversity on the road.
It's that NBA influence... it's like reading about Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni with the Phoenix Suns!
Statistically we rebound at the EXACT same level we did last year (on both ends of the court). see my image upthread for the data.
Out of curiosity, can you narrow it down to conference road games?
Edit: actually they probably were just as bad on the road last year. I remember because it came to me when I was cussing everyone last night for giving up offensive rebounds. I HATE offensive rebounds.
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