Lane deviation warning system

While driving our 2019 Outback, all of the sudden the steering wheel would jerk like you were on a slushy road. Took it to the dealer and the told us to shut off the lane deviation. They said all new Subaru cars have experienced this along with Chevy Silverados. There is a glitch in the computer and they are aware of the problem. Usually happens at high speeds. Warning light read Keep Both Hands on Steering Wheel.

I have a 2018 Outback, that has the same lane deviantion system. When it jerks back it is just a slight jerk, not enough to put your car out of control. If you are changing lanes and do not turn on the the turn signal it will firs give a slight jerk, and if you keep turning into the lane it will light up a signal. This is a safety issue to reduce accidents caused by sleepy drivers.
 
I think Uber is doing a lot of their self driving car testing in Pittsburgh. I assume they are doing it year round.
but what has the weather been like during those tests?
https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/20...iving-car-return-public-road-pittsburgh-crash
"But it wasn’t easy going. The company’s vehicles were continuing to fail some of their track tests as recently as September, according to documents reviewed by the Times. Uber uses track testing to not only test against common road scenarios, but also edge cases with the goal of training the vehicle to become a generally good defensive driver. But the cars needed to drive 20 percent slower to match the reaction time of a human driver at 25 mph."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uber-secret-self-driving-car-testing-facility/

I work on automated equipment and see how many times the simple sensors fail there. Now you want to add ten fold multiple variables to the equation that is also ever changing? I for one will never trust a computer. yes human drivers aren't perfect, but we have senses/training a computer will never have or be able to duplicate.
 
Yes, because the average driver is so good at doing the basics. You must have a different experience then I do on the roads. It seems like half the people on the roads are looking down at their phone or radio most the time whether they have safety features or not. Having additional options for safety can only help, and pretty much every organization that has anything to do with auto safety is fully onboard with these new systems.

That lane departure should all be optional. Just shut it off if you dont like it.

First thing I did...
 
Finally got the the nerve to use the parallel park feature with my F 150. Truly amazing and perfect parking with hands off wheel.
 
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Computers are getting a bit out of control. Give me an old school car anyday. I drove a rental car with the warning system and it would gently nudge you back on the road. I suppose I just trust my driving far more than some computer software.

Car insurance companies in the near future will beg to differ.

You''ll pay a huge premium in your insurance if you are still driving yourself vs using an autonomous vehicle. We can all have our own opinions on our driving abilities, but they are the ones footing the bill in the end for accidents.
 
Car insurance companies in the near future will beg to differ.

You''ll pay a huge premium in your insurance if you are still driving yourself vs using an autonomous vehicle. We can all have our own opinions on our driving abilities, but they are the ones footing the bill in the end for accidents.

That is a long time away. If I pay more then I will for my safety. It will be a nice feature when it is all automated and perhaps by that time I will be old enough for things like my eyesight to be declining.
 
If it turns the wheel it isn't a warning system, it's a driving system.

I am all for passive safety devices like warnings, but when the vehicle starts to drive for me I am still a little nervous. I have worked in technology for 25+ years and I don't trust it 100% yet, nor do I trust what people with bad intensions can do with it once we rely 100% on it.
 
It's kinda like a plane's computer that can take over and send a plane into a nose dive multiple times against the pilot's better judgement. And that system is far more scrutinized than individual car companies "assist" code.
 
My new Silverado had a feature where it'd remind you to "Check the back seat" before leaving the vehicle. Even the dealer suggested turning that off.

The thing that freaks me out about all the "self-driving" features are that humans are supposed to be their to take over in case of emergency. Sure, us older guys know how to drive. But what about my kids? How are they going to have the skills to do this???
 
My new Silverado had a feature where it'd remind you to "Check the back seat" before leaving the vehicle. Even the dealer suggested turning that off.

The thing that freaks me out about all the "self-driving" features are that humans are supposed to be their to take over in case of emergency. Sure, us older guys know how to drive. But what about my kids? How are they going to have the skills to do this???

yeah....our daughter will be driving in a couple years and we purposefully bought our current vehicle with the idea this would be one we would hand down to her. Because of that, we got the safety features (lane correct, blind-side alert, responsive cruise control, etc).thinking this would be safest bet when this becomes her primary vehicle.

Now I'm not so sure if learning to drive with all this "help" is necessarily a good thing. I'm wondering if this really puts her at risk if/when in the future she drives a car that doesn't have all these features.
 
While driving our 2019 Outback, all of the sudden the steering wheel would jerk like you were on a slushy road. Took it to the dealer and the told us to shut off the lane deviation. They said all new Subaru cars have experienced this along with Chevy Silverados. There is a glitch in the computer and they are aware of the problem. Usually happens at high speeds. Warning light read Keep Both Hands on Steering Wheel.

Use your turn signal. It only happens if it believes you're unintentionally leaving your lane.
 
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Car insurance companies in the near future will beg to differ.

You''ll pay a huge premium in your insurance if you are still driving yourself vs using an autonomous vehicle. We can all have our own opinions on our driving abilities, but they are the ones footing the bill in the end for accidents.

I disagree, you're also go to pay a HUGE premium for that car overloaded with technology that costs major dollars to repair if it is in an accident. Even a minor fender bender that knocks out a sensor will be expensive to fix.

We're already seeing this, how often does a minor rear end collision cost $3,000 and up to repair because it crumpled the honeycomb structure. Now add in parking sensors, cameras and who knows what else and that's suddenly a $10k hit.
 
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Car insurance companies in the near future will beg to differ.

You''ll pay a huge premium in your insurance if you are still driving yourself vs using an autonomous vehicle. We can all have our own opinions on our driving abilities, but they are the ones footing the bill in the end for accidents.

That's not really how car insurance works though, afaik.

Insurance is based on total claims paid out, plus a bit extra. The claims rate isnt going to go up for manually-driven cars just because self-driving cars exist. If anything, they'll go down because the self-driving cars will avoid accidents with the manually-driven cars.

Roughly 2/3 of my insurance bill is liability and collision, with the remaining 1/3 being comprehensive coverage (stuff self-driving vehicles will still be vulnerable to). For self-driving cars, those claims rates might be so low that while insurance rates for manually driven cars won't drop all that much (though they'll see a drop especially as self-driving vehicles gain marketshare) the insurance rates for self-driving cars could be significantly less. Enough so that its been discussed that automakers may just bundle in some of that insurance into the cost of a vehicle.
 
People fantasize about sleeping while your car drives. That **** scares the **** out of me!
By the time we get to that point it probably wont be all that scary. We'll have had a decade or more of more intermediate steps where people have gotten used to the computer taking more and more control
 
It's kinda like a plane's computer that can take over and send a plane into a nose dive multiple times against the pilot's better judgement. And that system is far more scrutinized than individual car companies "assist" code.
Now THAT sounds like a rush!
 
By the time we get to that point it probably wont be all that scary. We'll have had a decade or more of more intermediate steps where people have gotten used to the computer taking more and more control
Yes but for some people, giving 100% of their freedom to a computer is more terrifying than death.
 
One thing i have noticed- having a vehicle that finds the lane markers and automatically sees them really makes you notice where the DOT hasn't gotten out there and painted the lines in awhile. Oftentimes people are using other things to identify where the lanes are and not actual paint, but the computer wants the actual lines.

Really notice it on 235 on the east side and 35/80 on the western side between 141 and clive
 

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