Thinking after this year Self will finally go to the NBA, the streak will be over, no reason for him to stick around
Kansas @ Kansas State
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Anytime Kansas losses a game its good for the rest of the league, because they will win out at home. That is the strength of Kansas, in a league with a round robin schedule, the team with the best talent is going to win it most years.
KU just does not lose games at home, I think Self has lost less than 1 home conference game a year since he has been the coach at KU each season. Go 8-1 to 9-0 at home, 5-4 or 6-3 on the road, you are conference champs. They have done it that way for 14 straight years.
KU just does not lose games at home, I think Self has lost less than 1 home conference game a year since he has been the coach at KU each season. Go 8-1 to 9-0 at home, 5-4 or 6-3 on the road, you are conference champs. They have done it that way for 14 straight years.
It actually does not at all... Regular season conference championship is far more important and it really shouldn’t be explained.
The regular season is far more difficult, but there is something to be said for going into the tournament on a hot streak. I would rather see an elite eight.
What if ISU and KSU share and KU is a game back? Do we get to ***** about that?
In general I don’t care more about one or the other, but two things:
1.) Ending the farce at 14
2.) Having a record sufficient in winning the regular season conference title is likely needed to have a shot at a great seed in DSM
There is no correlation between the two. I’ve seen plenty of teams blow their wad in the conference tourney before they get to the NCAA and lose early. I don’t think winning the conference tourney necessarily means longer run in the NCAAs.
Where did this idea come from? Seems like there's been several posters say it. The Final Four is the ultimate goal for me, but would trade the three conference tournament titles for a regular season title.
Thanks for the help, KSU but here’s to hoping they lose their next 3 games.
@ BU
@ TX
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I'm not sure it applies in all cases, but I think some fans are under the impression games in the conference tournament "hold more weight" than regular-season games, when in fact they're assessed exactly the same. It just "seems" more important, on the surface.
Make no mistake, it's fun to win the league tournament, and has been cool ISU has won several in the past few years, sort of a mini-identity. And it doesn't hurt to win the trophy, of course. As far as value vs. regular season championship, it isn't even close.
That worked well for us in 2015. Also, nobody when talking about a teams history ever mentions the number of conference tourneys they’ve won.
If you go by the BPI, ISU should win out, KSU should lose @ Baylor, @texas, and @KU (vs ISU), and KU should lose @ TTech, and Baylor should lose @texas, @ISU, @KSU, and @KU.
If all of that happens, ISU wins the conference. Will all of that happen, probably not. Am I banking on it, no. Do computers play the games, no. However your speculations are no more valid than the BPI predictions.
There are a lot of possible scenarios, but I like ISU's chances, even if they do end up losing @ KSU, especially if that is their only remaining loss.
I'm happy to see KU lose tonight!
Agreed, plus his whole business model is destroyed following the FBI probe.
Something to think about:
Iowa State’s chances of winning the Big 12 if they lose at KSU. I think it would be very tough. We would need help from the rest of the league to give KSU some losses. Need them to start losing now.
13 wins probably wins it outright.
12 wins is probably gives you a share
11 wins probably gets you 3rd
10 wins probably gets you 4th place
Iowa State’s chances of winning the Big 12 if they lose at KSU. I think it would be very tough. We would need help from the rest of the league to give KSU some losses. Need them to start losing now.
13 wins probably wins it outright.
12 wins is probably gives you a share
11 wins probably gets you 3rd
10 wins probably gets you 4th place
The only thing the conference tournaments matter for are small and mid-major conferences that depend on it for an ncaa tourney bid or bad major conference teams trying to desperately play in to the ncaa tourney. It’s nothing but an ncaa money grab. Still fun, but irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
If Self Pete Carroll's himself to the NBA we'll know sanctions are on the way.
So, he'll be there next year.
There is so much stupid in this thread, but hands down you take the cake.