Jordan Dykstra

[Clone_12]

Re: Unless You've Seen a Kid Play

Stats in a HS box score mean nothing.

There are tons of kids who can score 25+ppg in HS, but couldn't sniff the court at a BCS school. Coaches like GMAC are looking at skills that project at the college level when a kid will be playing against other kids 6'9" and the game is played above the rim.

Good post...but I say we completely judge whether or not this kid will be a bust or an all-american right now, two years before he ever steps on campus-and either proclaim him a waste or put unreasonable expectations on him! jk.

 

[jhill]

JD actually is developing very well. He does need to get stronger, but he has very good basketball skills. Heemstra scores more because he's often forced to play PG for Rock Valley since they don't have any other guards that can really bring the ball up the court.

6'9" kid that can play point guard? Why isn't he getting any looks and/or offers? Does Iowa State have any interest -- or are his numbers simply the result of playing small school ball in Iowa?

 

[cyismydog]

He plays for Martin Brothers. Last I heard, SDSU was the leader for Heemstra.

 

[ericlambi]

FWIW, ESPN has Heemstra graded a 40 and Dykstra graded a 70. I just found this using google, I don't know anything about how they come to these scores.

 

[CrossCyed]

A 40 is for someone they have not scouted.

70 isn't real high. I believe Vette was like a 78 or 79. Hamilton was an 80.

 

[CyinCo]

A 40 is for someone they have not scouted.

70 isn't real high. I believe Vette was like a 78 or 79. Hamilton was an 80.

Yes, but keep in mind both are only part way through their Jr. season. The next season of AAU will be big for Dykstra.

 

[HOTDON]

Grate Minds Think Alike..........:biglaugh::biglaugh:

If that was spelled incorrectly in a display of subliminal, condesending irony, then that is one of the funniest things I've ever read. If it was a simple oversight, then it is still a funny bit of irony, but if it was intended to poke fun at the quoted post then it is infinitely more funny.

 

[Bigguns]

Yep. I put more weight on his AAU play anyway.

Why?

 

[Clone5]

Because he is playing better competition.

 

[CyinCo]

Why?

Seriously? Because AAU circuit is better basketball. Only the best kids in a local area will play AAU and they play other great AAU teams from all different locations. 1A basketball in Iowa is not all that great. I went to a 2A HS so I can only imagine what happens at the 1A level.

 

[Bigguns]

Seriously? Because AAU circuit is better basketball. Only the best kids in a local area will play AAU and they play other great AAU teams from all different locations. 1A basketball in Iowa is not all that great. I went to a 2A HS so I can only imagine what happens at the 1A level.

HS teams play better together, much better Team D, I agree there will be alot of bad teams on the schedule but IMO AAU ball is not all it's cracked up to be. Harrison Barnes was putting up much better # this summer on the AAU and camp circut.

 

[Clone5]

HS teams play better together, much better Team D, I agree there will be alot of bad teams on the schedule but IMO AAU ball is not all it's cracked up to be. Harrison Barnes was putting up much better # this summer on the AAU and camp circut.

Disagree with almost all of this. There is so much more ability on those AAU teams, you can't even compare it to 1A. Harrison Barnes was putting up better numbers because defenses had other players to worry about.

 

[cyclonenum1]

Seriously? Because AAU circuit is better basketball. Only the best kids in a local area will play AAU and they play other great AAU teams from all different locations. 1A basketball in Iowa is not all that great. I went to a 2A HS so I can only imagine what happens at the 1A level.

Generally, I would agree that AAU has a higher level of competition than the typical small class HS BB in any state. However, some of you are falling into the trap of thinking that AAU is all about the basketball...when in fact it is very much about the money. It is a way for coaches to set up "club" teams and make money by charging a fee to be on the team or getting a business to sponsor the team. This also allows these coaches to further their individual and group lesson businesses. I'm sure they want kids that can "play" but they also want kids that will "pay" for them to be out there doing this. My son took lessons from a former McDonald's All American from the 80s and he tells everyone that AAU has become nothing more than a money making machine for coaches.

 

[CyinCo]

Generally, I would agree that AAU has a higher level of competition than the typical small class HS BB in any state. However, some of you are falling into the trap of thinking that AAU is all about the basketball...when in fact it is very much about the money. It is a way for coaches to set up "club" teams and make money by charging a fee to be on the team or getting a business to sponsor the team. This also allows these coaches to further their individual and group lesson businesses. I'm sure they want kids that can "play" but they also want kids that will "pay" for them to be out there doing this. My son took lessons from a former McDonald's All American from the 80s and he tells everyone that AAU has become nothing more than a money making machine for coaches.

Maybe so, but I think it is also fair to say that any kid that has D1 aspirations better be playing AAU ball or they will fall off the recruiting radar. In that regard, then, you'll find more D1 talent on an AAU team than on a 1A HS team in Iowa.

 

[tamjam]

I have not seen the kid ball at all, but I did see him sing in a choir concert about 2 months ago. The guy had a pretty good voice. I could see him doing something with that if the whole basketball thing doesn't make him a living. Does anyone know what he plans on majoring in at ISU? If it isn't music than this kid needs to have his head either checked out or slapped upside it. Luckily, I can and will do both.

 

[cyclonenum1]

Maybe so, but I think it is also fair to say that any kid that has D1 aspirations better be playing AAU ball or they will fall off the recruiting radar. In that regard, then, you'll find more D1 talent on an AAU team than on a 1A HS team in Iowa.

Not true my friend. AAU is not a must. The kids that can really play (like Greg Monroe for example) are identified before (or even without) AAU and ultimately are invited to many high profile camps. Alternatively, the advent of the prep school where a kid can go between his senior year of HS and first year of college has become a way for someone with lesser talent to get noticed other than the AAU circuit. I'm not saying AAU is dead...clearly it is not...but there are other routes to get noticed and a kid that can really play would not have to play AAU to get a bunch of offers. I agree that AAU is a higher brand of BB than small school BB in most states. However, my son plays on a team that is 17-1 with 6 guys that have played AAU...not a single one is a DI talent. My point is AAU is saturated in today's world due to the fact that it has become a money making enterprise for coaches...more players = more teams = more money...simple equation.

 

[Clone5]

Not true my friend. AAU is not a must. The kids that can really play (like Greg Monroe for example) are identified before (or even without) AAU and ultimately are invited to many high profile camps. Alternatively, the advent of the prep school where a kid can go between his senior year of HS and first year of college has become a way for someone with lesser talent to get noticed other than the AAU circuit. I'm not saying AAU is dead...clearly it is not...but there are other routes to get noticed and a kid that can really play would not have to play AAU to get a bunch of offers. I agree that AAU is a higher brand of BB than small school BB in most states. However, my son plays on a team that is 17-1 with 6 guys that have played AAU...not a single one is a DI talent. My point is AAU is saturated in today's world due to the fact that it has become a money making enterprise for coaches...more players = more teams = more money...simple equation.

Players want to be on those teams because it increases their exposure to college coaches and gives them an opportunity to play competitive basketball against good players. As saturated as it may be it provides high school basketballers a way to further increase their chance for success. AAU players don't have to be D1 talent but I'm sure the point of all this was recognizing Dykstra, Barnes, etc, face better competition in AAU than in their high school seasons.

 

[Clones85']

AAU season takes place when coaches can recruit

High school season takes place when coaches have games and they can't make many games

AAU is extremely important if you want to play D1 basketball. It is THE best, only option for most