Jon & Kate update

[dosry5]

If you have watched the show for years, she needed the tummy tuck. Those kids did a number on her, and the episode they talked about it, I really felt bad for her.

Kind of interesting that they did whole episodes on her tummy tuck and his hair plugs, but her boob job was kept pretty secret.

That would have been a highly rated show.....I would have helped those ratings.

 

[cmoneyr]

Ditto that...they are the real losers in all of this.

Real nice, call the kids losers.

 

[dosry5]

Real nice, call the kids losers.

what a jerk!

 

[Bobber]

If you have watched the show for years, she needed the tummy tuck. Those kids did a number on her, and the episode they talked about it, I really felt bad for her.

Kind of interesting that they did whole episodes on her tummy tuck and his hair plugs, but her boob job was kept pretty secret.

I did catch that one and agree with you. The boob job is a different story however.

 

[djcubby]

I disagree with you on this one.

The reality is that the vast majority of homes are not like the home of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson or June and Ward Cleaver. Spouses have communication issues and sometimes argue...that is the real world. What is wrong with kids seeing that (assuming there is no physical abuse or drug/alcohol dependencies involved)? And then seeing the parents work through the issue, compromise and stay committed to their relationship.

The reality is that parents typically split for their own selfish reasons...not for the kids. The bottom line, in my opinion, is that it is not good for a kid to miss out on having a full time mother or a full time father.

A marriage is more than just about love...it is about committment...especially when you bring children into the picture.

This. I heard this statement once and it just make sense to me. Your kids live you for 18 or so years, but your wife is for a lifetime. This doesn't mean that you shouldn't take care of your children, but your marriage should come first.

 

[cmoneyr]

but your marriage should come first.

Lol wut? As stewo's avatar would say.

 

[dosry5]

I did catch that one and agree with you. The boob job is a different story however.

A boob job is a gift that keeps on giving. :yes:

 

[jdoggivjc]

Real nice, call the kids losers.

The kids aren't losers - they're in a losing situation.

About the only way the kids could win is if the PA Dept. of Human Services were to intervene and yank the kids away from the exploitress, but that would come with its own set of problems.

 

[pulse]

A marriage is more than just about love...it is about committment...especially when you bring children into the picture.

I don't think so. Marriage is about love first and foremost. Sure there's commitment, but without love both should move on. It isn't healthy otherwise to have simmering resentment or whatever negative feelings.

Didn't you take woo and screw?

 

[Bobber]

I don't think so. Marriage is about love first and foremost. Sure there's commitment, but without love both should move on. It isn't healthy otherwise to have simmering resentment or whatever negative feelings.

Didn't you take woo and screw?

You have those things crop up in any relationship. How you handle them is what makes or breaks marriages and friendships.

 

[Cydkar]

I'm divorced and we didn't get divorced for "the kids". At the same time, if we were still married today the kids would not be better off. At least I don't think so (will never know).

While divorce is inherently selfish, I didn't get my ears pierced and start chasing 20 year old trim once the judge said it was OK.

 

[KLoISU02]

Maybe I'm being naive, and maybe it doesn't really do a lot of good, but did they seek any kind of counseling? It kind of seems like they just gave up and didn't even try to fix anything. As a 'product' of divorced parents, I know how screwed up separate holidays, Dad's on the weekend can be and I feel so sad for those poor kids. I agree that if it's "World War III" in the household it is really unhealthy, but it doesn't seem like either one of them really tried to fix anything.

 

[cyclonenum1]

I don't think so. Marriage is about love first and foremost. Sure there's commitment, but without love both should move on. It isn't healthy otherwise to have simmering resentment or whatever negative feelings.

Didn't you take woo and screw?

I didn't say marriage was only about committment and not about love...it is about both.

 

[CycloneErik]

Real nice, call the kids losers.

I think he's saying that the kids lose the most in the deal, not insulting the children by calling them losers.

 

[Cydkar]

Maybe I'm being naive, and maybe it doesn't really do a lot of good, but did they seek any kind of counseling? It kind of seems like they just gave up and didn't even try to fix anything. As a 'product' of divorced parents, I know how screwed up separate holidays, Dad's on the weekend can be and I feel so sad for those poor kids. I agree that if it's "World War III" in the household it is really unhealthy, but it doesn't seem like either one of them really tried to fix anything.

From what I saw it looked like John just gave up. No counseling from what I understand. Not cool. At least put up a fight "for the kids".

 

[egami]

I think he's saying that the kids lose the most in the deal, not insulting the children by calling them losers.

I think that was sarcasm. :wink:

 

[cyismydog]

You know it's summer on CF when there's a 7 page thread about Jon and Kate plus 8.

 

[Cydkar]

They weren't getting divorced in the winter.

 

[bos]

Those crooked houses were pretty cool. Bet they cost a pretty penny though. I did find it fantastic that she manipulated the workers into manipulating Jon on where to put them.

 

[Ms3r4ISU]

Those crooked houses were pretty cool. Bet they cost a pretty penny though. I did find it fantastic that she manipulated the workers into manipulating Jon on where to put them.

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