They'll fire a coach first before they look inward at their own decisions. It's similar to pro sports, it's not the players the GM brought it, it's the coaches fault for not using the players correctly.
Jeremiah Cooper NIL representation
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They'll fire a coach first before they look inward at their own decisions. It's similar to pro sports, it's not the players the GM brought it, it's the coaches fault for not using the players correctly.
You might be talking about Texas A&M. From what I can tell they are the epitome of NIL gone wild. With all their player acquisition thru bags of cash they have managed to go about 7-5 each year with a home loss to App State.
Ok? Ames is 17 1/2 hours from El Paso. What’s your point?
I was only pointing that it’s not “crazy”that he would go back there with some cash in hand. His top 5 schools before committing were TT, Baylor, SMU, Arizona, and of course ISU.
Speaking about NIL only: I think we need to embrace our position in the market. Sell to recruits that ISU can be a springboard of opportunity for them to go get a big / bigger NIL deal from the blue bloods of college football or basketball. We can be their first college platform as a younger player.
Take for instance the Tyrese Hunter situation, would have loved if we sold that not as a loss, but as an opportunity for him that was created by playing for ISU. He thanks ISU on the way out, reports a big $ deal, and we market that.
Seems like we are always going to lose the $ game when it comes to NIL, have to find some competitive advantage in the NIL arena.
Take for instance the Tyrese Hunter situation, would have loved if we sold that not as a loss, but as an opportunity for him that was created by playing for ISU. He thanks ISU on the way out, reports a big $ deal, and we market that.
Seems like we are always going to lose the $ game when it comes to NIL, have to find some competitive advantage in the NIL arena.
OK, so your pitch to recruits sounds like l- hey, come play for us, and let us spend time and resources developing you, then go somewhere else where they’ll pay you more money?
It makes no sense to me that athletes can sign endorsement deals with companies plus random groups are getting them pay-for-play money. Why wouldn't the school just pay the players directly? Is it to avoid the perception (and inevitable lawsuit) that athletes are not employees? What other industry has third party groups committing to give money to someone for attending a specific organization? It's the same as Political Action Committess, in a way. Imagine if a group of rich guys created an "unaffiliated group" to pay a pro QB multi-millions to sign with a certain team over another. Would the NFL step in? Could they?
The system has created a totally unnecessary third party to pay players.
I think there are a whole bunch of implications to having them classified as employees and it is easier/cheaper to create and work within a convoluted system. Eventually, the ties are going to get too strong to legally avoid it.
Lot of good points with this. The staff are college football coaches first and not salespeople, but a good salesperson is always finding a way to win somehow or persuasively show benefit to the person they're pitching creatively. Take the loss and turn it into a positive.
I hope they're also looking at the opportunity NIL provides to us. We can also attract great guys from smaller programs who have done well and fit our culture. There's just more uncertainty with every offseason now. Might as well focus on what we can control and what we can do for ISU's athletes. Hopefully someone at ISU is talking to them about the benefit-drawback analysis and trying to weigh the factors in favor of ISU. Would you want to accept $500K of taxable income from this collective and take a risk that moving to Texas A&M may recruit over you or you may not play at all (see e.g. Ish Young or others) sabotaging your long term career / NFL hopes, or accept $125K of taxable income here at ISU and stay at ISU where you know you've proven you're a starter next year and can keep your NFL stock rising and build upon your legacy here? When you weigh those considerations, what sounds like a better bet?
I don't know about the numbers, but I'm just trying to imagine what we can sell at ISU and how that conversation will go with a highly sought after proven starter transfer like Cooper could be and the numbers that might be reasonable. There is no factual basis for my numbers above. Actually, the taxable income may not be that smart to sell in Iowa where income is taxable vs Texas where there's no state income tax....
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Apply it to dating life. You tell a hot girl "just date me until someone better looking and more money comes along, but in the mean time I will teach you all the skills you need."
plus you keep getting to date younger women as the older ones move on?
You know, that is a HELL OF A STRATEGY!!!
I thought you couldn't use NIL to recruit high school or transfer portal athletes. Eye roll.
Yes, but just as with coaching searches, it’s good to consider who might be leaking this, and why. Then take with appropriate grain(s) of salt.
Sign me up.
We may just have to accept our role in the game "money ball" that D1 college football has rapidly become.
Until the Era of much tighter regulation, caps, rules, etc. And that ship may have already sailed.
Fill the Jack and swamp Cy Town. Facilities, sound coaching staff, and GameDay atmosphere will at least keep us more competitive.
Scholarships could come with 1 year non compete contracts. My business contract had that poison pill in it