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ccyclonepower25

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NFL players don't have to play if they don't want to.....They put themselves out there, so they assume the risk of being hit....
 
See I am the exact opposite. Football is about hitting and if you can't take the hitting go play soccer. Helmet to helmet in my opinion is a dumb rule just like horse collaring. Most of the time as a defender you don't intend to go helmet to helmet but do to the offensive player shifting to avoid the tackle you get put in positions where helmet to helmet happens even though it wasn't the intent (Perfect example was against Iowa a couple years ago when LJ went to tackle Moiaki (Sp?), LJ was going low and Moiaki dipped his shoulder thus causing helmet to helmet)
 
Yeah, I agree sometime the helmet hits are incidental. But sometimes they can be avoided. The rule is in place, I don't think he should blatantly disregard the rule because he doesn't agree with it. If I don't agree with a rule at my workplace, I suck it up and live with it, or I break it and get reprimanded or Fired. If I repeatedly break the rule I get fired.
 
ccyclonepower25 said:
I am not a Steelers or Browns fan, but I am getting tired of James Harrison going to the helmet on people and thinking there is nothing wrong with it. I realize it is football, and the rules have changed to protect the players more. But his blatant disregard for the rules are putting other players in jeopardy. He needs a multiple game suspension.

Pittsburgh Steelers' James Harrison -- hit on Cleveland Browns' Colt McCoy not worthy of fine from NFL - ESPN
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this. Whether he likes it or not, the NFL decides what the rules of the game are, and whatever they are, that's football. It's not a democracy. They decide. It's their call. People can complain that it's ruining the game, but in the end, the NFL makes the decision, and the game of football becomes whatever they decide.
The recourse for the player? Go play in Canada. The recourse for the fan? Don't watch. And neither of those things are happening any time soon.

Harrison doesn't have to agree with the rules, but he does have to abide by them, or face the consequences. If fines aren't doing the trick, then maybe suspensions will. He can play the insolent tough guy card til he's blue in the face, and the only people who will get hurt are his teammates, his fans, and himself.
 
The hit on Colt wasn't as bad as I thought. I don't feel like he lowered his head very much on the hit. but when the helmet does meet the helmet of a qb you have to know they will flag you. I love watching the guy play but he really needs to figure out how to hit big with some other parts of his body
 
ISUKyro said:
The hit on Colt wasn't as bad as I thought. I don't feel like he lowered his head very much on the hit. but when the helmet does meet the helmet of a qb you have to know they will flag you. I love watching the guy play but he really needs to figure out how to hit big with some other parts of his body
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The problem I have with it is that there is no reason he could not have lead with the shoulder there. Seemed to intentionally lead with the helmet to me.
 
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Harrison is a cheap shot artist, plain and simple. I don't always agree with the rules nowadays, but he knows the rules and constantly disregards them, and for that he deserves a suspension because fines don't matter to millionaires.
 
I can't stand the guy. You may not like the rule but that is not an excuse to habitually violate it. They need to start suspending people...
 
isufbcurt said:
See I am the exact opposite. Football is about hitting and if you can't take the hitting go play soccer. Helmet to helmet in my opinion is a dumb rule just like horse collaring. Most of the time as a defender you don't intend to go helmet to helmet but do to the offensive player shifting to avoid the tackle you get put in positions where helmet to helmet happens even though it wasn't the intent (Perfect example was against Iowa a couple years ago when LJ went to tackle Moiaki (Sp?), LJ was going low and Moiaki dipped his shoulder thus causing helmet to helmet)
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I don't get it when people say that helmet to helmet should be allowed. It's not worth all these guys getting brain damage that shows up later in life.
 
I think the NFL needs to take a hard stand because maybe next time he does hit somebody, he might get seriously hurt. Then he or his family will probably sue the NFL for allowing him to keep doing this.
 
Don't care, I remember signing up to play football. It was to hit people. That's what Harrison signed up for. When they change the rules to where you can kinda hit people in certain areas, and even less areas if they are a special position, I'm on Harrison's side and he should take the shots and do as he was taught and what he was paid huge amount of money to do.

If the NFL doesn't want hits, either give them all flags or make it two-hand touch. It's getting to be a bunch of ********.
 
Maybe he should quit if he doesn't like the rules. Seriously...If you want to play in the NFL play by the rules. He is not the rule maker. I like how people think he can do whatever he wants. What a load of crap.
 
Harrison gets one game suspension for his hit on Colt Mccoy. Glad they finally stopped with the fines and get on to something that might actually get his attention eventually.
 
I can't wait for the day that a defensive player pulls up and doesn't hit a QB who goes onto make a huge, game-winning play! And then admits to the public that he didn't want to get suspended so he didn't go all out. The media will be all over that player even though that is what the NFL wants apparently!
 
I don't like the "wimpification" of football, but Harrison seems to deliberately go after people with his helmet, not safe to him or the other guy. I feel like cases that are incidental (see LJ post above) should not be penalized. Defender going in to make a hit, runningback lowers his head, jukes, etc, and now his head is in a different place, making it a head to head hit.

Problem is, this creates a judgement call, which we all know is not a good situtation.
 
geburgess said:
Don't care, I remember signing up to play football. It was to hit people. That's what Harrison signed up for. When they change the rules to where you can kinda hit people in certain areas, and even less areas if they are a special position, I'm on Harrison's side and he should take the shots and do as he was taught and what he was paid huge amount of money to do.

If the NFL doesn't want hits, either give them all flags or make it two-hand touch. It's getting to be a bunch of ********.
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Playing in the NFL is a job right? The NFL is his employer, correct? And most places of employment have policies that are changed from time to time. Simply put, you either comply with the policies, or leave and go work somewhere else. Simple as that. Harrison is choosing not to comply.
 
cyfanatic said:
I can't wait for the day that a defensive player pulls up and doesn't hit a QB who goes onto make a huge, game-winning play! And then admits to the public that he didn't want to get suspended so he didn't go all out. The media will be all over that player even though that is what the NFL wants apparently!
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That already happened. See the Mathias Kiwanuka/Vince Young play from 4-5 years ago. The world didn't end.
 
isufbcurt said:
See I am the exact opposite. Football is about hitting and if you can't take the hitting go play soccer. Helmet to helmet in my opinion is a dumb rule just like horse collaring. Most of the time as a defender you don't intend to go helmet to helmet but do to the offensive player shifting to avoid the tackle you get put in positions where helmet to helmet happens even though it wasn't the intent (Perfect example was against Iowa a couple years ago when LJ went to tackle Moiaki (Sp?), LJ was going low and Moiaki dipped his shoulder thus causing helmet to helmet)
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I don't believe this at all. Players are going for big hits, and what does the most damage? The helmet. I think it is pretty easy to tell who was trying to hurt someone by the way they use their head(lowering it as opposed to keeping their head up). Sad things is that you can make just as big of hits with your shoulders.
 
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